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Ask HN: 30+ men and women in software, how much do you make?

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Re: Ask HN: 30+ men and women in software, how much do you make?

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Americans surely know the value of a good developer. Unbelievable how terrible the pay is in Europe. 70k-80k is a common end-of-career salary here. I once had a business partner (French) and we were launching a software-based business. He was the President, I was the CEO (leading all technical, engineering and operations management matters, that's quite a bit... he was handling the sales). I told him that as a first…

Well in Europe its very different because cost of living and quality of life/money ratio is very different.

150k are amounts made only by succesufl business people, not by employee. No matter what you do. Top notch doctors make what 50k... Its going to be higher in Germany and UK and surely switzerland. But for example even in Berlin it wont be so much bigger than in cheaper countries.

I think the point is that even for 25k you live pretty fucking fine. Most people live happy with prices around 18-12 which are the middle-lows.

You cant buy so many things but most europeans dont care that much about buying things. The trend in bigger cities now is to have a bike and ride public transport - many people dont even want a car. You buy home and you are done.

On the other hand since wages are not so high the price of services is lower too. So things like food in restaurants is just cheap (and great). With 24k you dont need kitchen and can basicaly eat outside all the time. When you go to cheaper restaurants you are nearing the price of the raw ingredients since the people are not so expensive. It depends where you live but i dont think you can compare europe with north america.

With 150k you would be considered very very rich. Presidents and heads of state make that much in most of the european countries.

Re: Ask HN: 30+ men and women in software, how much do you make?

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I'm looking for new places to go. My experience with South America has been that some of the best places are the ones that don't readily appear as tourist destinations for North Americans like myself.

I'm more of a central america kinda fellow. I haven't spent any time in South American. The reason I asked why you asked is it was unclear what information you were interested in. I primarily know about Guatemala, Honduras, and Mexico. If you want something off the beaten path, try Xela, Guatemala. Your Spanish needs to be adequate, as very few people there speak English (except for expats). The best places actually…

I'll check out Xela.

I've always wanted to go to Lake Atitlán. I hear there's a restaurant in Santa Cruz La Laguna that does very traditional Guatemalteco cuisine with an incredible view of the lake. The restaurant is called Cafe Sabor Cruceno, and it's run by a local trade school. You have to take a boat from Panajachel to get there...but don't go in March or April, because the fog in the atmosphere that time of year really kills the view.

San Miguel de Allende in Mexico is also on my list. Not sure what the 4G LTE situation is like out there, however.

Re: Ask HN: 30+ men and women in software, how much do you make?

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Large ASX listed companies, and other medium sized companies. Good to keep them all in similar, if not the same, industry.

What would you say is the reason (advantage) for keeping them in the same industry?

It's not a strict rule, but it seems to smooth the way for me in initial conversations when I know the industry already. It's probably happened more organically for me, as almost all my clients come from referrals by people I've worked with before, and they mainly refer people from similar industries.

Re: Ask HN: 30+ men and women in software, how much do you make?

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What would you say is the reason (advantage) for keeping them in the same industry?

It's not a strict rule, but it seems to smooth the way for me in initial conversations when I know the industry already. It's probably happened more organically for me, as almost all my clients come from referrals by people I've worked with before, and they mainly refer people from similar industries.

That makes sense. Thanks.

I'm looking to develop corporate clients for my professional services business (not tech) so always keen to learn how it's done. Congrats on your success!

Re: Ask HN: 30+ men and women in software, how much do you make?

#117
- 30 years old, 4 years professional experience

- £35,000, £1800~ p/m after tax and pension contribution

- 20% income tax, 22.5% VAT

- Back-end Java dev

- Java/Spring/Hibernate/Redis/MongoDB/Docker/Vagrant/JavaScript/Angular

- North West UK (Liverpool area)

- 37.5 hours p/w, 24 days paid holiday, paid sick leave

I am well aware how badly devs in the UK can be paid and it is a constant source of bitterness.

Would seriously entertain opportunities abroad.

Re: Ask HN: 30+ men and women in software, how much do you make?

#120
Age 25. No kids, not married.

7 years in web, 9 total in development.

Went from senior with 9k$ salary to TeamLead with 15k$. Then to CIO with 19k$. Now I'm working in different company as Lead Web-developer/Architect with 23k$.

Russia, Saint-Petersburg. I should mention that I got my salary in rubles, so yeah...

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