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Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to AWS?

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Post by kyriakos »

Feld0 wrote: post #34

OVH specializes in dedicated servers ( https://www.ovh.com/ca/en/dedicated-servers/ ) but they offer an API for ordering them and can deliver many of them within a couple of minutes. They have a number of "cloud"/managed offerings as well if you browse around their site. They have datacentres in France and Canada, and are currently bringing up new ones in the US, Australia, and Singapore that they hope to launch by t…

Had good experiences with OVH, their offerings are stable and their support is good. You can talk to an actual human even if you just have a single server.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to AWS?

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Post by api »

Personally I am partial to heterogeneous deployments across commodity vendors like Digital Ocean, Vultr, Linode, OVH, etc. You do have to think a little bit more about security and devops but you get a lot of power and robustness for a lot less money.

We do use S3 for backups and big storage. That has no equal.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to AWS?

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Post by slake »

user5994461 wrote: post #20

Google has all the exact same offerings as AWS. The IaaS part is called GCE (Google Compute Engine): https://cloud.google.com/compute/pricing Given all your comments in this thread. You seem to struggle quite a lot to understand the market and you didn't clarify what you want to achieve (how many servers do you have now? how many applications do you run? how many dev? how big is your company?) So forgive me for think…

My opinion on this is that you still learn and deploy on AWS or GCE. The learning curve might be steep at first but it'll save a lot of heartache when your organization scales or you want to set up a complex deployment that one of the smaller players don't necessarily support.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to AWS?

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Post by mrep »

tafda wrote: post #48
mrep wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would love a direct service to service comparison between the major cloud providers. Anyone know of a guide like that?

Available service, SLA, and region comparison for AWS, Google, Azure and Softlayer at a fairly high level: http://cloudcomparison.rightscale.com

That's is very helpful, although a little outdated (bookmarked nonetheless). AWS now has x1 instances with 128 vCPU's and 1952 GB of ram: https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/x1/

On a totally different note, Softlayer has a 100% uptime guarantee! That is surreal if it's actually true.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to AWS?

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Post by bdcravens »

brudgers wrote: post #11

To me, the alternatives to AWS depend on the workload. For Netflix the alternative is building a chain of massive data centers or negotiating with Microsoft or negotiating with Google. For a Ruby on Rails app, Heroku is one. For someone just monkeying around with Kubernetes, maybe a some Raspberry Pi. The alternatives also are related to the specific business. For Home Depot, running on AWS means running in a competi…

Heroku is on AWS. If that's an alternative, then there are others that similarly run atop AWS, such as Cloud66.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to AWS?

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Post by brudgers »

bdcravens wrote: post #55
brudgers wrote: post #11

To me, the alternatives to AWS depend on the workload. For Netflix the alternative is building a chain of massive data centers or negotiating with Microsoft or negotiating with Google. For a Ruby on Rails app, Heroku is one. For someone just monkeying around with Kubernetes, maybe a some Raspberry Pi. The alternatives also are related to the specific business. For Home Depot, running on AWS means running in a competi…

Heroku is on AWS. If that's an alternative, then there are others that similarly run atop AWS, such as Cloud66.

A good point. I suppose that what 'an alternative to AWS' is varies too.

By which I mean that Heroku is an alternative to AWS from the standpoint of user interface and API's in the same way that Haskell is an alternative to C even though both can ultimately place values in x64 CPU registers and cause JMP's to locations in memory.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to AWS?

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Post by nixgeek »

Feld0 wrote: post #34

OVH specializes in dedicated servers ( https://www.ovh.com/ca/en/dedicated-servers/ ) but they offer an API for ordering them and can deliver many of them within a couple of minutes. They have a number of "cloud"/managed offerings as well if you browse around their site. They have datacentres in France and Canada, and are currently bringing up new ones in the US, Australia, and Singapore that they hope to launch by t…

Bear in mind for the first ~90 days you won't be able to get servers from an API call within "120 seconds" (marketing fluff) because they'll hold each order for manual approval. Recent and still very frustrating pains for me!

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to AWS?

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Post by falsedan »

slake wrote: post #53
user5994461 wrote: post #20

Google has all the exact same offerings as AWS. The IaaS part is called GCE (Google Compute Engine): https://cloud.google.com/compute/pricing Given all your comments in this thread. You seem to struggle quite a lot to understand the market and you didn't clarify what you want to achieve (how many servers do you have now? how many applications do you run? how many dev? how big is your company?) So forgive me for think…

My opinion on this is that you still learn and deploy on AWS or GCE. The learning curve might be steep at first but it'll save a lot of heartache when your organization scales or you want to set up a complex deployment that one of the smaller players don't necessarily support.

Classic premature optimisation. Those hours spent mastering the 10s of products you need to use to do it the 'right' way would be better spent on marketing, business logic, and 5 minutes installing apache + php on a Digital Ocean droplet which also is the dev environment.

If your company suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune & needs to migrate, you can paid someone who is an expert to help you migrate, because that's their business, and yours is presumably something else.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to AWS?

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Post by lox »

falsedan wrote: post #58
slake wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My opinion on this is that you still learn and deploy on AWS or GCE. The learning curve might be steep at first but it'll save a lot of heartache when your organization scales or you want to set up a complex deployment that one of the smaller players don't necessarily support.

Classic premature optimisation. Those hours spent mastering the 10s of products you need to use to do it the 'right' way would be better spent on marketing, business logic, and 5 minutes installing apache + php on a Digital Ocean droplet which also is the dev environment. If your company suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune & needs to migrate, you can paid someone who is an expert to help you migrate, b…

That is a false dichotomy. The reality should fall in between, learn enough to understand some of the design choices you make, but don't overcook it.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to AWS?

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Post by thom »

One easy alternative to AWS is just shovelling your cash directly onto a bonfire.

However, if you care about the actual server bit, Rackspace have their 'hybrid' cloud offers. There's a small but well-thought-of company in the UK called Bytemark who have a cloud offering but I doubt it qualifies as having a global footprint.

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