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Re: How to Build Muscle

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Post by vemv » Sat, Oct 01, 2016, 5:15 PM UTC

caub wrote: post #2

https://daks2k3a4ib2z.cloudfront.net/54a5a40be53a05f34703dd1... on the left, it feels far enough muscles for a developer, why would you need more muscles? that consumes more calories :) and are pretty useless, except for our stupidly wrong society's standards

- You'll look like a developed man, rather than like a permateenager. This is nature, not artificial standards

- Greater bone strength AND flexibility, preventing posture issues

- You'll be perceived better in your development team when it comes to leadership, arguments, etc. It's hardwired in us

Seems like a deal to me!

Re: How to Build Muscle

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Post by flurie » Sat, Oct 01, 2016, 5:18 PM UTC

jacques_chester wrote: post #15

gaius wrote: post #11

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Right, this is the ol' sarcoplasma volume vs myofibril density debate. It's also that the modern perception of the appearance of fitness is not well correlated with functionality - hence the prizing of the former over the latter.

> Right, this is the ol' sarcoplasma volume vs myofibril density debate. The evidence against there being any such difference is becoming more and more overwhelming. Studies based on either muscle biopsies or cross-sectional scans basically show no difference. The emerging consensus is training to approximately around failure is the main predictor of hypertrophic outcomes. Which is why both "train heavy!" and "train…

I want to point out that, not only is this comment absolutely correct based on what we know, but also, the more studies we see, the more this fact is confirmed. A great meta-analysis can be found here: http://strengtheory.com/hypertrophy-range-fact-fiction/

Re: How to Build Muscle

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Post by rawnlq » Sat, Oct 01, 2016, 5:18 PM UTC

jacques_chester wrote: post #5

Unsurprisingly, there is what looks like a paywall / call-to-spam at the end of the 2nd page. For those who want a non-engineer's guide, I cannot recommend strengtheory.com enough. Greg Nuckols is legitimately strong and legitimately up to date with the research. I'm also struck the idiosyncratic exercise selection. For most beginners a boring group of barbell exercises and a flourish of bicep curls and pullups will…

+1 to strengtheory.com. For example this is probably the absolute best resource on squatting on the internet: http://strengtheory.com/how-to-squat/.

For noobs, do StrongLifts 5x5 or Starting Strength instead.

Minimal viable workout over premature optimizations! Hand grippers and citrulline malate you'll probably not need for a long long time.

Re: How to Build Muscle

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Post by raverbashing » Sat, Oct 01, 2016, 5:18 PM UTC

usaphp wrote: post #35

> Have a hard time scheduling workouts? Wake up an hour earlier than normal and work out in the mornings before your day kicks off. Oh it's such a bad advise for beginners, lifting weights when you body wants to sleep is an easy way for beginners to lose interest in weightlifting and injure yourself. Also sleep is incredibly important for muscle growth.

Maaaaaybe for beginners it works

But I'd much rather go to the gym around 9pm than 9am. Much, much easier

Re: How to Build Muscle

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Oct 01, 2016, 5:24 PM UTC

vannevar wrote: post #89

The 2.5lb increments/week seems unrealistic. If you can increase weight by 2.5lb/week over any sustained period, it most likely means that you started with too low a weight. A 2-3 week increment cycle seems intuitively more likely to match actual strength gains. I'd be curious to hear others' experience, or any references on the subject.

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Re: How to Build Muscle

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Post by usaphp » Sat, Oct 01, 2016, 5:24 PM UTC

gaius wrote: post #78

usaphp wrote: post #54

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But if their body only stores protein as a junk and muscles don't have a real use in "so-called bodybuilders" as you say, why are bodybuilders able to lift insanely heavy weights and most of them successfully compete in powerlifting events setting records?

At competitive levels the physiques of bodybuilders and powerlifters are VERY different.

Not really, bodybuilders tend to have less fat thus their muscles look bigger. Also Powerlifters lift heavier weights in big part due to a much better technique than bodybuilders. Saying that bodybuilder's muscles are just a junk of stored protein is wrong, they are strong, very strong

Re: How to Build Muscle

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Post by jakejnichols » Sat, Oct 01, 2016, 5:26 PM UTC

This isn't a bad guide, but for those new and interested in the topic, the Reddit r/fitness subreddit ( https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness ) has a wiki which is probably the best all around guide out there to getting fit, muscular, and strong: https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/wiki/index

It is both entirely free and substantially better than this guide. It is based on the combined experience of people who are much further along in their fitness journey than Julian. There are good answers to all common questions and there are solid programs that match various personal preferences.

Re: How to Build Muscle

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Oct 01, 2016, 5:27 PM UTC

yoplait_ wrote: post #86

emcq wrote: post #82

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Are there any peer reviewed (or not) evidence that the keto diet provides additional weight losses beyond that which can be explained by calorie deficiencies?

Anecdotically you'll find lots of testimonies (including mine) arguing that it's much easier to control hunger on keto. I don't have food craving since I started and I get to eat as much as I want. So it's a lot easier to not overeat. Scientifically it's well known that eating carbs (especially fast acting carbs like sugar) triggers storage of fat.

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Re: How to Build Muscle

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Post by daenney » Sat, Oct 01, 2016, 5:29 PM UTC

fixxer wrote: post #74

ssijak wrote: post #71

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I have much experience with keto. For loosing fat it can be a tool in the arsenal but it is not everytime goto tool that it better than anything in every situation that some people try to make it is. As for the mental clariness, my experience is that I constantly have some kind of mental fatigue on keto, sometimes so much (after training) that I am funny to speak with (bugging out to much). That persists even after 1…

Hard to be a great athlete without protein AND carbs.

You don't need to be a great athlete in order to be fit, which is what this is about.

Re: How to Build Muscle

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Post by anjc » Sat, Oct 01, 2016, 5:30 PM UTC

First sentence: "Most bodybuilding advice is wrong", proceeds to list the most common bodybuilding advice.

The best thing you could do to learn how to build muscle is to go to a big bodybuilding forum and just do whatever bro-science they spout. I've been following bodybuilding forums and casually looking at research for many years, and invariably the bro-scientists are way ahead of scientific proof, in terms of methods and techniques, all the way down to finicky details. You'll also get the truth about what you can and can't do with/without anabolics.

Edit: I see that the author is here. It's not a bad guide, good design etc, but frankly it rubbed me the wrong way to basically read "I'm right and everyone else is wrong, because I researched", without having a highly impressive build to back it up. Even professional body builders don't prescribe certain techniques/methods as gospel.