I used to have a band teacher who said "practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."
Practice Doesn't Make Perfect
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#23I found Ericsson and co's ideas to be completely counter to their data. A lot of the articles were based on case studies. They studied wrestlers and wrestling coaches, for instance. The wrestling coaches were adamant that their selection process of weeding out less talented athletes and spending their effort grooming the ones who showed lots of promise was one of the keys to success. Somehow the authors completely ignored or glossed over lots of bits like that, strongly emphasized the obvious fact that successful wrestlers practiced a lot, and came to the ridiculous conclusion that practice is the only thing that matters.
On a related note, here is a quote from Ericsson that appears in the article:
“Differences between expert and less accomplished performers reflect acquired knowledge and skills or physiological adaptations effected by training, with the only confirmed exception being height.”
This is so disingenuous it's hard to know where to start. Consider powerlifting champion Andy Bolton. He deadlifted 600 lbs at 18 years old the first time he ever lifted weights. I have been lifting weights for 20 years and have never deadlifted 600 lbs. Bill Kazmaier is another one: he benched 300 lbs the first time he ever tried, and benched 400 a month later. These guys were in a position to win local and regional powerlifting competitions with basically no training at all. And here's Ericsson saying there's no such thing as talent.
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#24I used to have a band teacher who said "practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect."
And even perfect practice will not help a person who is actually tone deaf.
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#25No sane person, who have enough intelligence to realize that music, sports, arts and craftsmanship are 95% based on practice would doubt it. Any good music teacher or Olympic coach will tell you this. The 5% of talent determines where most likely would end up on the spectrum, but talent without practice is nothing, like knowledge unapplyed.
Even in programming actually writing code on the daily basis is what distinguish top performers from mere mediocrity and talking heads and bloggers at the bottom.
For the hipster narcissistic sub-culture it is perfectly OK to "challenge" (they think it is a challenge, not a display of stupidity and lack of even basic understanding) the nature of reality with sophisticated (which does not imply intelligent) nonsensical blah-blah-blah in order to gain public attention to their acting according to the role.
Hipsterism as a social phenomena is an insult to intelligence the way commercialized empty yoga of cosplay and asanas is an insult to spirituality (which is seeking for the truth).
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#26The modern world looks on with increasing horror: My God, you are dead, and the eugenicists were right.
Sometimes a janitor solved the problem, by turning the genius thinking around.
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#27I have my own theory. The idea is that there are lots, lots and lots of tiny unspoken things which could make huge difference in long run. And those who successful doesn't necessary know their own tiny things they got right. Let's say there are two persons A and B who is training in chess. Person A trained for X hours and became chess master. Person B trained for 10X hours and didn't get even close to master level. T…
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#28I have my own theory. The idea is that there are lots, lots and lots of tiny unspoken things which could make huge difference in long run. And those who successful doesn't necessary know their own tiny things they got right. Let's say there are two persons A and B who is training in chess. Person A trained for X hours and became chess master. Person B trained for 10X hours and didn't get even close to master level. T…
Absolutely. I'm a guitarist, and have been for over 30 years. I'm good, but not REALLY good, and I hit a wall in terms of technical ability / speed a long time ago - after about 5 years of playing. Nothing I did improved my speed and I didn't have the accuracy of a Malmsteen or MacAlpine, despite practicing religiously for hours at a time. I thought I had a speed limit and that was that - everyone I consulted felt th…
(say, extended guitar playing techniques)
An open question so far.
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#29What happened to that guy that gave up his job to spend 10k hours practicing golf in order to test the "10k hour makes perfect" theory? I was reading the article expecting that to come up. A quick google doesn't find anything on what/how he's doing today (it wasn't this guy, was it?)
basically he was going to reach his 10k hour goal next month (Oct 2016) but back in Nov 2015 he had to take a hiatus due to a back injury. Not sure what has happened since he hasn't posted since Nov 2015.
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#30If someone is born with down syndrome, they are extremely unlikely to graduate from university. If someone's eyesight isn't perfect, they will probably never become a commercial pilot. If you're autistic, you probably won't become a professional negotiator...
There are so many cases, sometimes rooted in tiny genetic differences which can make a huge difference when it comes to winning and losing...
And when you take luck into account; you could argue that even the most genetically fit human for a specific field is unlikely to become the best in that field even if they practice non-stop. There is so much luck involved, a single tiny problem can ruin an entire career before it even starts.