Facebook, Amazon, Google, IBM and Microsoft Create Partnership on AI

Post by tluyben2 » Thu, Sep 29, 2016, 3:18 AM UTC

ENGNR wrote: post #69

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Why are you surprised that Apple isn't involved in a field that has no material impact on their business? Outside of Siri and related projects, I don't see where AI/machine learning has any immediate benefits. Twitter and Intel missing seems like something to take note of, but I didn't even think twice about Apple. I'm more surprised GE is missing than Apple.

I use Android, but Apple are doing some good personal assistant stuff like tagging friends in photos, -without- uploading them to the cloud. A true personal assistant that can use machine learning locally and with discretion sounds pretty great

Post by madeofpalk » Thu, Sep 29, 2016, 3:24 AM UTC

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Whether right or wrong, I think it's good to keep in mind that Apple has, by far the highest quarterly profit and total asset value, compared to any of these companies - it really is a giant among giants. Alphabet certainly has an excellent future outlook (reflected in the markets), but its current financial state still pales in comparison to Apple. Taking this into account, I figure Apple thinks twice and thrice bef…

'it really is a giant among giants.' You're confused. That would be Alphabet, not Apple. To put it in perspective for you, Google has: ~90% of the search market ( https://www.statista.com/statistics/216573/worldwide-market-... ) ~90% of the smartphone market ( https://techcrunch.com/2016/08/18/gartner-androids-smartphon... ) ~50% of the online advertisement market ( http://www.emarketer.com/Article/Google-Still-Domin…

Post by madeofpalk » Thu, Sep 29, 2016, 3:26 AM UTC

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At WWDC they talked about how they put AI all throughout the system. It's not just when talking to Siri. It's things like suggested apps, photo tagging, deciding when to refresh apps in the background, text prediction, and probably lots of other stuff that I can't even think of because Apple's approach to AI is to make AI largely an implementation detail of the experience rather than a user-visible component.

Apple makes great stuff (typing this on a Mac), but I really don't get the adoration / mystic that surrounds them. Those features have been on Android forever, but people don't call it "AI".

Post by yakult » Thu, Sep 29, 2016, 3:37 AM UTC

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AGI and heating oil? There's a troubling gap in reasoning there. Narrow AI and automation replacing jobs has its own set of problems. But a machine intelligence explosion is a completely different thing, and a legitimate existential risk. It's really important to understand the difference and the specific arguments.

Still, you can't find anytime in history where we ended up saying "thanks we were careful" related to new technoloies. It's usually the reverse, governments delaying change for not smart reasons.

Post by seanp2k2 » Thu, Sep 29, 2016, 4:03 AM UTC

cybernytrix wrote: post #101

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> best of breed product company focused on a great user experience somehow i put them in the same category as LG, Samsung and Sony, albeit 100x better at what they do.

Apple has its own OS, compilers, IDE, 2+ languages, various frameworks etc. This is more than what Google, more importantly used a lot by people. But yeah it just a hardware company.