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The Effect of State Marijuana Legalizations

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Re: The Effect of State Marijuana Legalizations

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Post by bendykstra »

hackuser wrote: post #6

Know your source: Cato is an advocate for libertarianism, at least as envisioned by its funders, founded in part by Charles Koch, and still heavily funded and controlled by him (and I think by his brother). I don't mean that in a partisan way; you might love them, hate them, or not care one way or the other, but it's always useful to know who is talking.

The internet has made it very easy to shield ourselves from the arguments of people with differing views. Disclaimers such as this are just another way for us to filter what we read and further isolate ourselves ideologically. Who cares who said it so long as what they said has merit? Conversely, a healthy skepticism is always valuable, regardless of the source.

Re: The Effect of State Marijuana Legalizations

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Post by dstroot »

s_m_t wrote: post #8

New rule suggestion. You must argue at least one flaw in the study or article before pointing out the source may be biased.

Ha! I had had that exact same reaction. Reading the actual document it comes across as factual and not biased and all sources are referenced.

Re: The Effect of State Marijuana Legalizations

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Post by PKop »

fuzzywalrus wrote: post #4
thecrow1213 wrote: post #2

Thanks for sharing, very interesting stuff. The more unbiased studies we have like this the better.

I wouldn't refer to the Cato Institute as anything but biased, as it's a neo-con libertarian think tank funded by the Koch Brothers but this particular study is fascinating simply because it IS a neo-con libertarian think tank funded by the Koch Brothers.

Neo-con libertarian? What evidence do you have to support the claim that Cato is neo-con?

Wikipedia cites Cato as being critical of neo-con foreign policy and the Iraq War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cato_Institute#Libertarianism....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cato_Institute#On_foreign_poli...

Do you know what neo-con means? Serious question

Re: The Effect of State Marijuana Legalizations

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Post by katry908 »

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Re: The Effect of State Marijuana Legalizations

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Post by existencebox »

bendykstra wrote: post #21
hackuser wrote: post #6

Know your source: Cato is an advocate for libertarianism, at least as envisioned by its funders, founded in part by Charles Koch, and still heavily funded and controlled by him (and I think by his brother). I don't mean that in a partisan way; you might love them, hate them, or not care one way or the other, but it's always useful to know who is talking.

The internet has made it very easy to shield ourselves from the arguments of people with differing views. Disclaimers such as this are just another way for us to filter what we read and further isolate ourselves ideologically. Who cares who said it so long as what they said has merit? Conversely, a healthy skepticism is always valuable, regardless of the source.

Because who is saying something colors the merit it brings. And as a healthy skeptic, knowing the direction to look for potential bias _does_ help orient my skepticism and find potential ulterior motives within the infinite space of "all ulterior motives". I certainly was asking myself "I wonder who was backing this" while reading it.

(Don't take me the wrong way, I absolutely agree with you with respect to not filtering our input, I go out of my way to find people biased against my topics to see how they look at things and for me at least the labeling _assists_ with gathering a more diverse viewpoint, and understanding the true motives at play)

Re: The Effect of State Marijuana Legalizations

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Post by katry908 »

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Re: The Effect of State Marijuana Legalizations

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Post by tw04 »

hackuser wrote: post #6

Know your source: Cato is an advocate for libertarianism, at least as envisioned by its funders, founded in part by Charles Koch, and still heavily funded and controlled by him (and I think by his brother). I don't mean that in a partisan way; you might love them, hate them, or not care one way or the other, but it's always useful to know who is talking.

Libertarianism, as envisioned by the Koch brothers, is AMAZING when you're rich. You simply remove all government functions that protect the poor from the wealthy, and re-create feudal Europe. What's not to love???

Re: The Effect of State Marijuana Legalizations

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Post by pjlegato »

hackuser wrote: post #6

Know your source: Cato is an advocate for libertarianism, at least as envisioned by its funders, founded in part by Charles Koch, and still heavily funded and controlled by him (and I think by his brother). I don't mean that in a partisan way; you might love them, hate them, or not care one way or the other, but it's always useful to know who is talking.

The study seems to be making a sincere effort to be objective and evidence-based, with proper citations and such.

In my opinion, it largely succeeds. The fact that it was partially funded by someone I may not like is irrelevant (the ad hominem fallacy).

That's the entire purpose of the scientific method -- to bypass the ad hominem arguments you have made, to seperate the data and the claims from questions of whether we happen to like the person or group making the claims on a personal level.

Re: The Effect of State Marijuana Legalizations

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Post by refurb »

dcgudeman wrote: post #14
fuzzywalrus wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't refer to the Cato Institute as anything but biased, as it's a neo-con libertarian think tank funded by the Koch Brothers but this particular study is fascinating simply because it IS a neo-con libertarian think tank funded by the Koch Brothers.

Honestly, what is your issue with the Koch Brothers?

They like things he doesn't like?

Re: The Effect of State Marijuana Legalizations

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Post by mattnewton »

fuzzywalrus wrote: post #4
thecrow1213 wrote: post #2

Thanks for sharing, very interesting stuff. The more unbiased studies we have like this the better.

I wouldn't refer to the Cato Institute as anything but biased, as it's a neo-con libertarian think tank funded by the Koch Brothers but this particular study is fascinating simply because it IS a neo-con libertarian think tank funded by the Koch Brothers.

I thought noe-con usually meant big government / big buisiness / status-quo republican, which is pretty different from libertarian.
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