Facebook, Amazon, Google, IBM and Microsoft Create Partnership on AI
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Re: Facebook, Amazon, Google, IBM and Microsoft Create Partnership on AI
#2My AI predicts this industry consortium will produce nothing but travel expenses.
Re: Facebook, Amazon, Google, IBM and Microsoft Create Partnership on AI
#3The organizational structure has been designed to allow non-corporate groups to have equal leadership side-by-side with large tech companies.
Anybody know more details? As non-corporate entity the opportunity is very interesting due to the potential of having access to their infrastructure. The cost of running AI projects on the cloud is currently prohibitive and am forced to run on performance limited machines.
Re: Facebook, Amazon, Google, IBM and Microsoft Create Partnership on AI
#4Are LeCun, Corrado, etc. actually running this? They're pretty busy, and the website doesn't sound like them:
"We believe that by taking a multi-party stakeholder approach to identifying and addressing challenges and opportunities in an open and inclusive manner, we can have the greatest benefit and positive impact for the users of AI technologies. While the Partnership on AI was founded by five major IT companies, the organization will be overseen and directed by a diverse board that balances members from the founding companies with leaders in academia, policy, law, and representatives from the non-profit sector. By bringing together these different groups, we will also seek to bring open dialogue internationally, bringing parties from around the world to discuss these topics."
This sounds like it was written by some PR person. Google and Facebook are "IT companies"?
Re: Facebook, Amazon, Google, IBM and Microsoft Create Partnership on AI
#5At the risk of ad hominem, this is typical techcrunch reporting:
>> "Though Apple is said to be enthusiastic about the project, their absence is still notable because the company has fallen behind in artificial intelligence when compared to its rivals — many of whom are part of this new group."
How exactly is it that TC knows that Apple has indeed fallen behind? Are they privy to the Apple ML roadmap? Are they using lack of open source activity as a metric to make this claim? Is there an unidentified source who can objectively measure the ML progress across these organizations, and using this objective metric, conclude that Apple is behind?
It's a claim without much substance, and paints Apple in a negative light. You could say that this is a marketing failure on the part of Apple, and you might be correct. For example, see the article floating a few weeks ago on Medium (I think) on how Apple was embedding ML in everything.
In the days of price performance wars in CPUs (and GPUs), there were more or less objective (err, almost objective) benchmarks that people could point to. This is not the case with ML/DL. It would be great if we could say: "Across image classification, the precision / recall is X, vs. Facebook's Y. Clearly, Apple has more work todo in image classification. But in Machine Translation, Apple is ahead, with metrics A vs. B from Facebook..
What is happening with ML/DL/AI/whatever is that all companies are using the same bag of words to describe what they do, but the popular press is not discerning enough to make heads or tales out of what they report on, and they end up mis-educating the public.
Re: Facebook, Amazon, Google, IBM and Microsoft Create Partnership on AI
#6There's more information on their website: http://www.partnershiponai.org/
Re: Facebook, Amazon, Google, IBM and Microsoft Create Partnership on AI
#7Okay, which AI are they talking about? The term can mean various things. I mean if this were merely heuristic neural networks, one would think that Tesla would be included.
Re: Facebook, Amazon, Google, IBM and Microsoft Create Partnership on AI
#8Sounds like an alienate means for Skynet to become sentient.
Re: Facebook, Amazon, Google, IBM and Microsoft Create Partnership on AI
#9At the risk of ad hominem, this is typical techcrunch reporting: >> "Though Apple is said to be enthusiastic about the project, their absence is still notable because the company has fallen behind in artificial intelligence when compared to its rivals — many of whom are part of this new group." How exactly is it that TC knows that Apple has indeed fallen behind? Are they privy to the Apple ML roadmap? Are they using…
I think your comment is fair
>> "Though Apple is said to be enthusiastic about the project, their absence is still notable because the company has fallen behind in artificial intelligence when compared to its rivals — many of whom are part of this new group."
could easily be replaced by "Apple decided not to join the group because they're so advanced compared to its rivals. This group was actually created in an attempt to catch-up with Apple".
Both of these extreme claims aren't really back up by substantial facts.
Re: Facebook, Amazon, Google, IBM and Microsoft Create Partnership on AI
#10At the risk of ad hominem, this is typical techcrunch reporting: >> "Though Apple is said to be enthusiastic about the project, their absence is still notable because the company has fallen behind in artificial intelligence when compared to its rivals — many of whom are part of this new group." How exactly is it that TC knows that Apple has indeed fallen behind? Are they privy to the Apple ML roadmap? Are they using…
Well are we talking about applied AI or theoretical AI? As a dumb user (and I use Apple products), I definitely get the feeling that Apple is behind in the game. Now do they have kick-ass R&D that isn't getting shipped to users? Perhaps, but that's not what customers and investors care about.