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Re: Google Developing Tablet to Take on iPad

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Another Nexus?

I certainly hope so. The Nexus one is an absolutely awesome phone. Not to mention it completely re-set the expectation bar for the various Android handset manufacturer. (witness how most of the Android handset's announced post-nexus one have snapdragon processors and specs very similar to the nexus).

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It's interesting to see tablets being knighted as the Future of Computing by MSM and the tech industry when it's not at all clear that people actually want them. After controlling for the fanboy & factor, reviews for the iPad seem to be mixed. I don't think it's exaggerating to say that the form factor just might not be a good match for a lot of people.

It's a very funny bubble to watch. I just can't see it going mainstream.

The strangest thing for me is that I'd love to have a touch screen as my desktop monitor or as a replacement/augment to my keyboard and mouse (I like the clickieness/feel of my keyboard for touch typing, however). That would be totally killer, and definitely useful from a UI perspective...

But no one is interested in offering me this. The focus seems to be on mass-market 'consumer electronics'... apple and google and such are trying to make big bucks with 'the next ipod/iphone etc.'

Which, while an interesting and fun application of the technology (possibly profitable), might not be the most pragmatic application of it.

I guess the example would be if Apple had come out with a version of OS X that was designed to be used with a touchscreen monitor, and then seriously marketed it as an improvement/innovation over windows.

I mean, right now it seems that there is little real innovation within the iPad as a product. It is a gigantic iPod touch. It may very well be a beautiful piece of hardware, and useful to a certain demographic, but I can't help but feel it isn't really the big step forward it has been marketed as.

I think from a hardware perspective an analogous product might be the Sega Nomad. (Although from a marketing perspective there is no analogy there).

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>> "If the future of computing is Apple's locked down iPad and iPhone platforms" This is why I love not being in Silicon Valley. Anyone who thinks the iPad/iPhone is the future of computing is either mad, or in silicon valley.

Definitely agree. I moved to the Bay Area over a year ago. Most people think that the IPhone rules the mobile phone market. Some people even say that Android will be dead soon because everybody would just buy an IPhone. The truth is go outside the Bay Area and IPhone is not as prevalent. My non-Bay Area friends have an Android or Blackberry aside from the IPhone. IPhone is also not the best-selling smartphone line in…

It depends on market segment: among teenage girls, I don't think the blackberry is the device to own. Of course, it is for corporate users. Overall, I don't know what the breakdown is, but a chart would be enlightening.

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Could you really name a touch enabled Tablet to me without searching? I know I couldn't name one. There is also that nifty little stat about Apple being the worlds largest Tablet seller after their first day, so when it really comes down to it, they are the first. Even if you don't count the above it's still the first Tablet worth a damn. As for Google not following Apple... perception is everything. Consumers and re…

I bought an HP TX1000 like 3 years ago, and it wasn't the first by far. http://reviews.digitaltrends.com/images/full_reviews/hp/tx10...

cwilson said "touch enabled Tablet"

Touch enabled the TX1000 is not, it uses a stylus.

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>> "If the future of computing is Apple's locked down iPad and iPhone platforms" This is why I love not being in Silicon Valley. Anyone who thinks the iPad/iPhone is the future of computing is either mad, or in silicon valley.

Definitely agree. I moved to the Bay Area over a year ago. Most people think that the IPhone rules the mobile phone market. Some people even say that Android will be dead soon because everybody would just buy an IPhone. The truth is go outside the Bay Area and IPhone is not as prevalent. My non-Bay Area friends have an Android or Blackberry aside from the IPhone. IPhone is also not the best-selling smartphone line in…

They may not be dominant, but they've certainly carved off a sizable chunk. Recent figured I saw had RIM with 40% market, and and iPhone with 25% (just smartphones, not phones overall). I imagine the iPhone has an even large market when you narrow the demographics (teens and twenties, metropolitan areas, etc).

Even though the iPhone may not be dominating the market, they've carved out 25% of it in 3 years, while RIM has been in the market for far longer. Not to mention Windows Mobile being in the market for longer and accomplishing not much.

I'm not saying iPhone/iPad is the future of computing, but they've innovated in ways others haven't. Until someone 1-ups them, they'll continue to grow their share, in and outside of silicon valley.

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I can confirm that Google has been working on this for quite awhile. At least 2 years in one way or another. They anticipated the move into tablets and a lot of the work of maturing the Android platform has gone towards that. In this case, they're not following by any stretch. Oh, and while we're at it: It's not like Apple is the first touch enabled Tablet to ever come to market. I would argue that the iPhone is an i…

Could you really name a touch enabled Tablet to me without searching? I know I couldn't name one. There is also that nifty little stat about Apple being the worlds largest Tablet seller after their first day, so when it really comes down to it, they are the first. Even if you don't count the above it's still the first Tablet worth a damn. As for Google not following Apple... perception is everything. Consumers and re…

Could you really name a touch enabled Tablet to me without searching?

I don't know the name of it, but I know that everyone at my doctor's office has one.

is also that nifty little stat about Apple being the worlds largest Tablet seller after their first day, so when it really comes down to it, they are the first.

Huh? Being bigger than those preceding you makes you the first? What?

Apple when someone tells them "well Google has been working on this for 2 years!" and simply remember that Apple did it first...

I guess you're really a fanboy and believe this. But for those of us who have been watching the computer industry, tablets have been around for quite some time. Microsoft had a version of XP -- a now-discontinued OS -- for them. If you Google for "tablet pc windows xp", the first link you come to -- at Microsoft -- is a page that says it's been retired. Apple has missed at least one whole product cycle already.

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You're right. If the future of computing is Apple's locked down iPad and iPhone platforms, Google will lose big time. Google therefore needs to prevent that future from happening.

>> "If the future of computing is Apple's locked down iPad and iPhone platforms" This is why I love not being in Silicon Valley. Anyone who thinks the iPad/iPhone is the future of computing is either mad, or in silicon valley.

the people in silicon valley by nature are more future focused and more innovative thinkers, thus more qualified to comment on this subject.

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Apple is starting to feel like Microsoft. They're trying to compete everywhere instead of focusing on their core competencies.

I agree wrt iAd. Other than that they are very focused on manufacturing devices.

well "manufacturing devices" is a very big topic, same as "software company" they (Apple) started competing with Microsoft (and Nokia and so on) a long time ago when they added the iPhone to their stack.

Then they're all focused on their topic, which is "Technology"

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It's a very funny bubble to watch. I just can't see it going mainstream.

Apple's move seems to be based partly on the success of the iPhone but partly on the fact that they can't make a cheap, intel netbook without destroying their brand values, and can't make an ARM netbook without breaking compatability. (The latter applies to Microsoft too). The fact that you can buy an external keyboard (a very un-Apple move) suggests they'd have shipped a conventional laptop form factor if they could…

>...they'd have shipped a conventional laptop form factor if they could get away with it.

One can imagine some combination of Apple's old 12" Titanium PowerBook and the new MacBook Air into a MacBook Air Nano. Still, it's not clear how attractive that kind of form factor would be as a netbook offering.

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It's a very funny bubble to watch. I just can't see it going mainstream.

Apple's move seems to be based partly on the success of the iPhone but partly on the fact that they can't make a cheap, intel netbook without destroying their brand values, and can't make an ARM netbook without breaking compatability. (The latter applies to Microsoft too). The fact that you can buy an external keyboard (a very un-Apple move) suggests they'd have shipped a conventional laptop form factor if they could…

> The fact that you can buy an external keyboard (a very un-Apple move)

So you buy a £50 Apple bluetooth keyboard to connect to your $500 iPad so you can use the $10 iWork suite to do less than you could on your $1x00 Apple laptop?

Sounds like a very Apple move.

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