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Re: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

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Some of the comments here make me think of crabs in a pot pulling down the ones who try to climb out. Nobody's making you participate in this venture. If you don't like it, then you're free to go do whatever it is you do like. You might think Musk could better direct his efforts and resources elsewhere, but most other billionaires don't do anything all that interesting, they just invest their money in mundane stuff,…

Every time I hear him talk about Mars (placing it before curing cancer), I think "if only he had grown up wanting to eradicate poverty." Still...rather than think ill of his idea - and work - we should celebrate his innovation and the way he will inspire others. As I thought about how he is perfecting rocket technology, I wandered off on a tangential rocket technology (thought) that would tract nuclear rockets launch…

Eradicating poverty is orders of magnitude harder than landing a colony on Mars.

Hypothetically, if the US were to put 20% of their budget into (truly) getting people on Mars, they'll do it.

If they put 20% of their budget into eradicating poverty?

Right now the US government puts between 10% to 30% of their budget into Medicare and Medicaid.

Is poverty eradicated?

Re: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

#722

Some of the comments here make me think of crabs in a pot pulling down the ones who try to climb out. Nobody's making you participate in this venture. If you don't like it, then you're free to go do whatever it is you do like. You might think Musk could better direct his efforts and resources elsewhere, but most other billionaires don't do anything all that interesting, they just invest their money in mundane stuff,…

You're my hero! This attitude is why I quit regularly contributing to this site. Any time any single person does something positive, some armchair "expert" comes out the woodworks to tell you how it won't work or can't work.

While this does happen, I think it's because some on HN enjoy spirited argument and aren't intending to hurt anyone's feelings, just issue a worthy challenge.

Re: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

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Watching live the announcement and presentation by Elon on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1YxNYiyALg Where the hell did they get this audience from? Is this hosted on a frat house with some academic invites? There's a dude jokingly saying that burning man felt like mars with a lot of shit and no water, there's a guy plugging his comic book, there's a guy making a joke on how we should send Michael Cera to Mars, a g…

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that... That was ridiculous.

It actually made me realize that I may not want to go with others if the average person is like that.

Re: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's also my prerogative to advocate for what I believe to be a better allocation of resources. Honest question, not trying to be rude: what makes you believe you have a better idea of what a good allocation of resources (and Elon Musk's / SpaceX's skills) would be? If you're so smart and good at allocating resources, what prevents you from pursuing that other project instead of demanding from other people to follo…

what makes you believe you have a better idea of what a good allocation of resources (and Elon Musk's / SpaceX's skills) would be? Same reason as anyone else I suppose. Not really sure how to answer that without sounding like a douche. If you're so smart and good at allocating resources, what prevents you from pursuing that other project instead of demanding from other people to follow your lead? I mean that's exactl…

>I mean that's exactly what I'm doing...

You're not advocating for something your advocating against something.

Re: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

#726

I created an account just to post this. The Q&A was the worst Q&A I have ever seen. Truly awful. I usually am a pretty calm person but watching that made my blood boil. This venture could well be one of the most important things to happen to humanity, and those were the questions that people asked. The questions were awful at all levels. Featured self promotion, ignorance and plain stupidity. I just needed to get thi…

This is why I think the Tesla brand will be much stronger than bmw or Audi. They are the new Apple who are thinking different.

Re: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

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In the same way nerds got beat up because the jocks are just jealous of their brains? There can be criticisms of a plan to send a few people to die in a metal box millions of miles away at incredible cost that do not require jealousy as a motivator.

> send a few people to die in a metal box millions of miles away I wish I had this much talent at putting a negative spin on things. You could make a cure for cancer sound like the bubonic plague.

Just think most people have had to settle for dying on a silicon rock buried under a 100 miles of nitrogen.

Re: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

#728

Some of the comments here make me think of crabs in a pot pulling down the ones who try to climb out. Nobody's making you participate in this venture. If you don't like it, then you're free to go do whatever it is you do like. You might think Musk could better direct his efforts and resources elsewhere, but most other billionaires don't do anything all that interesting, they just invest their money in mundane stuff,…

We could ask ourselves why aren't we attempting such a difficult task as space collonisation as a collective entity. Why are we busy fighting each other over limited resources when we could collaborate to build a better future for ourselves..

Well, man is still a teritorial animal driven by instinct, and as any animal, it perceives the unknown as dangerous and it will attempt to stop, in a knee jerk reaction, anyone who will try to change the status quo.

We're still driven by the past, by what we know, than by the future. We're not used to thinking in terms of probabilities and possible outcomes, but Elon does.

This is why most great breakthroughs have been made by exceptional individuals that fought through resistence and brought progress for the rest.

We are still not ready to act like a single consciousness. I wonder if we will ever be..

Re: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

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post #277

Watching live the announcement and presentation by Elon on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1YxNYiyALg Where the hell did they get this audience from? Is this hosted on a frat house with some academic invites? There's a dude jokingly saying that burning man felt like mars with a lot of shit and no water, there's a guy plugging his comic book, there's a guy making a joke on how we should send Michael Cera to Mars, a g…

Where the hell did they get this audience from? Is this hosted on a frat house with some academic invites? The announcement was held at the "International Astronautical Congress". "The IAC is attended by the agency heads and senior executives of the world's space agencies." [1] [0] http://www.iac2016.org/ [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Astronautical_Co...

Yes, but to be fair a lot of people came to the confrence, only to see this speech.

Source: Me, I was there.

Re: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

#730

I thought the plans might include a Mars-Earth cycler [1] but possibly that's a science-fiction pipedream for the near future? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_cycler

He actually talk about this in the Q&A. Filed under possible "future optimisation".

They didnt think it'll add that much in practise.

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