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Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

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Re: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

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Does anyone know what the music is during the first 20 minutes?

Looks like it's made in-house. The tracks they use for webcast intros are apparently collectively known as Spacex FM. I like it. It reminds me of the Eve Online soundtrack.

Thanks! Looks like there's an entire site dedicated to the soundtrack: http://www.spacexfm.com

Re: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

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I wish there was local groups or meetups with people to talk about and maybe even potentially contribute to this effort. I kind of feel this way in general about science. I'd love to go somewhere after work and experiment in labs.

Start it!

Re: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

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Some of the comments here make me think of crabs in a pot pulling down the ones who try to climb out. Nobody's making you participate in this venture. If you don't like it, then you're free to go do whatever it is you do like. You might think Musk could better direct his efforts and resources elsewhere, but most other billionaires don't do anything all that interesting, they just invest their money in mundane stuff,…

> If we all worked on the assumption that what is accepted as true is really true, there would be little hope of advance.

~ Orville Wright

Yep. I'm sure plenty of detractors tried to pull down the Wright Brothers. Human innovators have had these detractors as always.

Re: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

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Watching live the announcement and presentation by Elon on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1YxNYiyALg Where the hell did they get this audience from? Is this hosted on a frat house with some academic invites? There's a dude jokingly saying that burning man felt like mars with a lot of shit and no water, there's a guy plugging his comic book, there's a guy making a joke on how we should send Michael Cera to Mars, a g…

I have an electric bus in the parking lot.........

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Re: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

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Why should your opinion dictate what other people try to accomplish?

I'm not saying "don't try", I'm just saying "I think what you are attempting is foolish and that you are just going to kill a bunch of people", that's all. I can express an opinion about a potentially deadly venture, can't I?

I wasn't suggesting that you cannot have an opinion. It's a perfectly valid opinion. I was implying that as a society we have a tendency to impose our opinions on others through laws and social pressure.

Re: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

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Some of the comments here make me think of crabs in a pot pulling down the ones who try to climb out. Nobody's making you participate in this venture. If you don't like it, then you're free to go do whatever it is you do like. You might think Musk could better direct his efforts and resources elsewhere, but most other billionaires don't do anything all that interesting, they just invest their money in mundane stuff,…

> Some of the comments here make me think of crabs in a pot pulling down the ones who try to climb out.

It's fine with me if some of my fellow crabs climb out, but it is very important not to lose sight of the fact (and to his credit, Musk gets this right) that unless all of us climb out (and we won't) then conditions in the pot are still going to matter to those -- almost certainly the vast majority -- who are left behind.

Re: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

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There's a phrase I'm fond of: The man who says it can't be done needs to get out of the way of the man who's doing it.

At least in my case, I see trying to start a Mars colony as a death trap. It's the illusion of carrying on the human race, but it's really just dooming a bunch of pioneers to a grim fate in an extremely hostile environment. I think making a south pole colony would be hard enough, let alone a Mars one.

The most important part of a Mars colony program will be the team on Earth raising money for more supply runs.

Re: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

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It's super weird, also that refueling question: People have to wait weeks in space to just get refueled? Why not send 4-5 tankers (supposedly reusable) up first and then refuel almost instantly? That thing seems really low scale/budget.

The goal is to maximize re-use in order to minimize cost, for a tanker to fuel a tanker in orbit you'd need two tankers. So 1 booster + 1 transporter + 1 tanker, vs. 1 booster + 1 transporter + 2 tankers. If the trip takes 100 days, adding 3 weeks is 20% longer, and you might get it 20% cheaper by saving one spacecraft ... I can see it going either way.

Why not just save a bunch of time and use new boosters? Then reuse those boosters for other missions? Reusing rockets is great for saving money, but that doesn't mean you need to reuse the same rocket for this one mission; if you have a business going with, say, 30 missions over the next year, you're probably going to need a lot more than one booster in stock anyway. Or, instead of new boosters, use a bunch of reused boosters for the Mars mission, letting other commercial customer who insist on brand-new boosters help subsidize your Mars mission.

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In some ways HN is designed to combat this. You need to "earn" downvotes with contributions, and the sites UX is designed in a way to slow down low effort comments, and to make comments sit for a bit before allowing replies (with workarounds if needed). The things that aren't features (like the lack of notifications) also help.

>In some ways HN is designed to combat this. Yeah, those things are an example of something that sounds great in theory, but doesn't work out in practice.

I wonder if recent UI enhancements really improve the discussion, or if they are just indicators that we've reached that critical threshold.

I don't remember wanting for collapsable threads and such four or five years ago, but now I can't imagine sifting through all the junk without them.

Re: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

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The SpaceXes of the age of colonization, such as the East India Company, used to sell shares to fund their voyages. I was a bit surprised not to hear Musk mention this as a funding option, since he just delivered the greatest Kickstarter pitch of all time...
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