What are we going to do on Mars? Live in a plastic box? Send in a bunch of slaves to mine minerals in insufferable conditions? I don't get it.
Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]
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#42In this case, it's pretty clearly not just a rocket. Both Bezos and Musk admit that this is their fantasy from when they were boys. We're never going to live on mars, this is entirely about mythological projection. The phallus is central to the purpose of this endeavor.
People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it.
Doing what, blowing up rockets? Shipping goods to LEO like people have been doing for literally decades?
Mars has no atmosphere. Who is going to solve that niggling issue to being a multiplanetary species? Who's even close? Musk is not "doing it".
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#43It looks from the videos that the boosters return to land using strictly thrust from the rocket. Can someone explain why it's done that way and a parachute isn't used for at least part of the descent? Seems like an awful waste of fuel.
Parachutes put large loads on the structure when opening and don't have much precision in choosing a landing site.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
What about going to a different planet makes you think we won't just be taking those same problems with us? The earth isn't the problem - The problem is the human brain. We aren't genetically capable of processing the world we have built. Expect there to be Trump IV vs Clinton IV 2117 hosted live on Mars if we haven't made significant improvements in human engineering.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding but you seem to be saying "Let's not be excited about colonizing another planet-- life will be just as depressing there."
it's a fair point.
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#45In this case, it's pretty clearly not just a rocket. Both Bezos and Musk admit that this is their fantasy from when they were boys. We're never going to live on mars, this is entirely about mythological projection. The phallus is central to the purpose of this endeavor.
Yes. We should all just go back to working on SaaS products and optimizing ad impressions.
You're right, there's no other work to be done except ad impressions and colonizing Mars.
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#46Hm. It either hasn't started yet or its not working for me. I just see the logo and hear music.
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#47We won't really be an interplanetary species until we can get back from Mars.
Imagine being colonists on Mars without the ability to be totally self-sustaining without technology and supplies from Earth and nuclear war breaks out. It's going to be a long time before any Mars colony can survive on its own.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's your point?
I wrote a long essay about this that I have yet to publish, but my basic point is this: 1. Mars is a fucking desert. There is no air, water or life. 2. Venus is covered in CO2 clouds and sulfuric acid rain. Metal melts on its surface. We are not going to live in space. To even WANT to live in space is an absurd fantasy that is in violent conflict with the reality of space as an airless, inhospitable, largely resource…
So, are you saying that us as humans need to quit trying to get off this rock and get back to extincting ourselves here?
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#49elon musk debuts his foray into electronic music
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#50Is SpaceX trying to simulate the long, tedious trip to Mars with this scheduling delay and "endless space" intro graphic?