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Hallucinogens Have Doctors Tuning In Again

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Re: Hallucinogens Have Doctors Tuning In Again

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It's really irritating when scientists "rediscover" what people have known for years. Yes of course psilocybin can give people intense, potentially life-changing experiences. Did you think we were making all that shit up?

And it's not even that there is now empirical evidence to make it "true." These guys aren't the first to do these sorts of experiments.

Re: Hallucinogens Have Doctors Tuning In Again

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Hey this "friend of mine" subscribes to Playboy and in this months issue there's a pretty decent article on the use of MDMA, LCD etc. for people who are dieing and need "end of life treatment"

MDMA was also (at its outset) used (in small doses) during relationship therapy and PTSD with great success. There's been little ongoing research since it was relegated to Schedule I, but there's been some at least.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDMA#Therapeutic_use

Re: Hallucinogens Have Doctors Tuning In Again

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It's really irritating when scientists "rediscover" what people have known for years. Yes of course psilocybin can give people intense, potentially life-changing experiences. Did you think we were making all that shit up? And it's not even that there is now empirical evidence to make it "true." These guys aren't the first to do these sorts of experiments.

You need a piece of paper (degree) from an educational institution to make these claims. Otherwise you get arrested/have serious problems. Shaman/Medicine men have been having visions for years and using substances to get closer to nature since humankind started - agree with your point about "rediscovery".

Re: Hallucinogens Have Doctors Tuning In Again

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It's really irritating when scientists "rediscover" what people have known for years. Yes of course psilocybin can give people intense, potentially life-changing experiences. Did you think we were making all that shit up? And it's not even that there is now empirical evidence to make it "true." These guys aren't the first to do these sorts of experiments.

Well, what's irritating to me is the reason they've had to "rediscover" it: the prohibitions our government imposes on what private individuals do to their own bodies.

Re: Hallucinogens Have Doctors Tuning In Again

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It's really irritating when scientists "rediscover" what people have known for years. Yes of course psilocybin can give people intense, potentially life-changing experiences. Did you think we were making all that shit up? And it's not even that there is now empirical evidence to make it "true." These guys aren't the first to do these sorts of experiments.

"...what people have >>knownWell: some people. And "known" from their own uncontrolled (in the scientific sense) trials.

Seems to me that the important thing in this report is the systematic research using controlled studies.

Perhaps most helpful was the evidence that side-effects or negative reactions were quite infrequent and were manageable by attendants (aka "guides" in the 60s). Those types of findings might eventually open the door for public funding of research (note that most studies were funded by psychedelic-sympathetic agencies).

Re: Hallucinogens Have Doctors Tuning In Again

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It's really irritating when scientists "rediscover" what people have known for years. Yes of course psilocybin can give people intense, potentially life-changing experiences. Did you think we were making all that shit up? And it's not even that there is now empirical evidence to make it "true." These guys aren't the first to do these sorts of experiments.

Well, what's irritating to me is the reason they've had to "rediscover" it: the prohibitions our government imposes on what private individuals do to their own bodies.

As far as drugs go... Our bodies belong to Pfizer/Merc. Commercialization of drugs.

Re: Hallucinogens Have Doctors Tuning In Again

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It's really irritating when scientists "rediscover" what people have known for years. Yes of course psilocybin can give people intense, potentially life-changing experiences. Did you think we were making all that shit up? And it's not even that there is now empirical evidence to make it "true." These guys aren't the first to do these sorts of experiments.

Well, what's irritating to me is the reason they've had to "rediscover" it: the prohibitions our government imposes on what private individuals do to their own bodies.

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