So when I signed up for FF sync last night that was a waste of my life? The only reason I was giving them a shot is Chrome's goofiness. It crashes my GFX card on Win10 (constantly) and always has threads open for hardly-ever-used extensions.
Mozilla has stopped all commercial development on Firefox OS
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Re: Mozilla has stopped all commercial development on Firefox OS
#112So when I signed up for FF sync last night that was a waste of my life? The only reason I was giving them a shot is Chrome's goofiness. It crashes my GFX card on Win10 (constantly) and always has threads open for hardly-ever-used extensions.
Firefox OS is getting discontinued, not Firefox the browser.
Re: Mozilla has stopped all commercial development on Firefox OS
#113So we had Jolla, Ubuntu, Mozilla and even Microsoft trying to create a new major player in the mobile OSs market - all pretty much failed to do so. Is it practically impossible? Are we stuck with Android and iOS forever? This tiny selection of options worries me.
I'm a big supporter of GNU/Linux on the phone. I don't care if Jolla or Ubuntu don't ever make it as "major" players in the mobile OS world. I'd be perfectly happy with GNU/Linux mobile software that's as good as the Linux desktop. I run Linux on my desktop (and laptop), and we're 1% of desktop users. I'd be satisfied with 1% mobile market share. We don't need a billion users, all I want is a hacker-friendly platform…
Android is Linux on the phone. It's Linux kernel with stuff on top. Check out Replicant. It removes most of the stuff you might find objectionable.
Re: Mozilla has stopped all commercial development on Firefox OS
#114What was the point of Firefox OS? I never really saw any kind of marketing around it beyond "Mozilla decided to make a phone OS."
From what I've gleaned, the only differentiating factor was that all apps are Javascript. Like my mom cares what languages her apps are written in.
Re: Mozilla has stopped all commercial development on Firefox OS
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
The fairphone 2 is "fairly" hacker-friendly. The bootloader is not locked. They provide android stripped of google mobile services, and Ubuntu phone is reportedly 70% ported. Sailfish OS could also be an option if either Fairphone or Jolla port it. All of these setups still require binary blobs for firmware, but that's as good as it gets on mobile I think.
> Sailfish OS could also be an option if either Fairphone or Jolla port it. It seems to have already happened[1]. [1] - https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris/Insta...
yes, but it's not an "official" image yet, meaning it won't receive support from the Jolla developers (and is missing some things like the Android app compatibility layer)
Re: Mozilla has stopped all commercial development on Firefox OS
#116So we had Jolla, Ubuntu, Mozilla and even Microsoft trying to create a new major player in the mobile OSs market - all pretty much failed to do so. Is it practically impossible? Are we stuck with Android and iOS forever? This tiny selection of options worries me.
I think the only option that has an even remote chance of success right now is to fork Android and do your own thing while maintaining compatibility with as many existing Android apps as possible.
So, something like Cyanogenmod but with more drastic changes. It's Linux under the hood after all. It's already compatible with GNU coreutils and a whole bunch of other free software. No need to start again from zero.
Re: Mozilla has stopped all commercial development on Firefox OS
#117So we had Jolla, Ubuntu, Mozilla and even Microsoft trying to create a new major player in the mobile OSs market - all pretty much failed to do so. Is it practically impossible? Are we stuck with Android and iOS forever? This tiny selection of options worries me.
I think an alternative will only come from a paradigm shift.
For the same reason DOS/Windows reigned on the desktop for decades, with Mac having a few percents and Linux repeatedly failing to grab any significant market share.
Re: Mozilla has stopped all commercial development on Firefox OS
#118So we had Jolla, Ubuntu, Mozilla and even Microsoft trying to create a new major player in the mobile OSs market - all pretty much failed to do so. Is it practically impossible? Are we stuck with Android and iOS forever? This tiny selection of options worries me.
We still have Samsung's Tizen, fast, powerefficient and can it run Android apps
Re: Mozilla has stopped all commercial development on Firefox OS
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, they shouldn't enter a market by trying to out do the established players at their own game. Microsoft didn't dethrone IBM by making a better mainframe.
Ah, there are no niches. Got it.
Sharp readers will note the tell for cognitive dissonance of deliberately misrepresenting my position twice in a row