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Re: BeagleBone Black Wireless

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Post by josh64 »

pasbesoin wrote: post #23
pwython wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may be thinking of the ODROID-C2. http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php

Thank you. That looks like one of the ones, perhaps the only one, that I recall. Gigabit Ethernet, even. Do wish the USB could be >= 3, but for $40, I'm not going to complain. Mali™-450 GPU (3 Pixel-processors + 2 Vertex shader processors) I'm thinking this implies a binary blob?

Check the kernels available too - often these pi-like boards only have 3.x version Android kernels available.

Re: BeagleBone Black Wireless

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Post by Gibbon1 »

logicallee wrote: post #50
errantspark wrote: post #41

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I'm curious to see this for myself, do you have a source?

https://www.google.com/search?q=As+for+the+backdoor+in+Orang... (honestly, if it were invisible I wouldn't care. it's just sloppy. I also think all governments should collude and there should be like world peace ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - meanwhile they should fear for their people, and have to nominally follow constitutions. I guess I can keep dreaming though.)

Not sure but I assume that the Octavo Systems OSD3358 uses the same parts as the BBB core processor/memory/misc. Which means at least you can load the same firmware as a BBB. Which leaves you with the same trust issues as a regular BBB. If that's not true then all bets are off.

Me I'd be more worried about the WiFi module, thought stopping to think, if the WiFi module driver isn't open source that's a worry too.

Re: BeagleBone Black Wireless

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Post by joezydeco »

ausjke wrote: post #28

Used beaglebone since it's out years ago, it's a great piece of hardware and kind of kicked off the open-source-software plus open source 32-bit-CPU DIY hardware movement before everybody else. Then clone was up everywhere, from RPI to Intel to many small shops in China etc, even Arduino started to add 32-bit CPU boards, price has remained to be low so far. The only concern is that TI is not as active as before on it…

Didn't anyone else out there have a PandaBoard?

And TI was probably smart to exit OMAP for phones/tablets when they did. It's too hard to beat Apple/Samsung/Qualcomm in this space now.

(The Sitara/AM335x on Beagle is just an OMAP without the video DSP)

Re: BeagleBone Black Wireless

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Post by blacksmith_tb »

hackcasual wrote: post #47
blacksmith_tb wrote: post #32

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Can it be that those prices are imaginary until there's stock? It seems like a nice board (I have a old BBB, with ethernet, and it's solid), but the CHIP [1] gets you wifi and BT for $9... 1: https://getchip.com/pages/chip

Beagleboard's come with PRUs, for which, if you need a lot of very fast GPIO, there's no substitute. I've driven 9000 LEDs at 100fps with Octoscroller

Which is admittedly very cool, for some applications - but the PRUs can't account for the huge price difference by themselves, I wouldn't think.

Re: BeagleBone Black Wireless

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Post by FullyFunctional »

nawtacawp wrote: post #48
faragon wrote: post #30

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The board SoC quality is very good. However, it can not compete with e.g. the CHIP SoC board [1], which costs just 9 USD + shipping with similar specs (I have two CHIP running 24/7 without any additional cooling, running rock solid -even in summer, at 35-40º C indoor-). The only thing that would make me consider buying the BeagleBone Black Wireless is the two built-in microcontrollers ("PRU" processors [2]), for real…

I have a few chips too. Running one as a jukebox. Not sure what to do with the others yet. What do you use yours for?

Funny story (I think): I happened to have brought a C.H.I.P. when I went back to europe for vacation. My father proudly showed me his new solar array and the log he had collected manually. After a bit of googling, sourcing a USB-serial adapter locally, and a few long nights I had the CHIP collecting this from the Growatt 3000's serial port and uploading it to pvoutput.org. It's still running 24/7.

EDIT: I have too many of the little SBC, but in my mind the CHIP is outstanding value for these little projects where in yesteryears one would have used a microcontroller.

For things that need more power, I like the ODROID C2.

Soo many to choose from.

Re: BeagleBone Black Wireless

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Post by asimuvPR »

jwatte wrote: post #4

The BeagleBone was great when it first came out. Then the Raspberry Pi came out, and has a bigger community, higher performance, and lower price. Compared to the RPi 3, the BBBW seems like ... too little, too late?

Not at all. IME, they tend to be more reliable and used in real world products. The Rpi (as much as I love it) is focused more at the hobby market. You can use the BB boards on professional settings as off the shelf hardware.

Re: BeagleBone Black Wireless

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Post by bsder »

logicallee wrote: post #12
pasbesoin wrote: post #9

OT, sort of, but a while back I saw one of these... "Pi-like" boards that had two Ethernet ports. It also had significantly more horsepower. I'm wondering what might be recommended choices at this point for someone looking for an inexpensive, wired MITM / Firewall platform. P.S. It would be great if it also had decent on-board wireless for e.g. making a portable hardware firewall device.

seriously? (seriously seriously)? It depends on if you're okay with the chinese having a backdoor, at the firmware level. (to the tune of '//gotroot!!' in the source code, and dropping to root.) if you're okay with it, you have a LOT more options than if you aren't. perhaps if we start having dedicated routers and networks for the backdoored insecure stuff they'll start realizing that at the end of the day they're be…

I upvoted you in spite of your tone, because your statements are not undue.

The AllWinner stuff is concerning because they weren't exactly transparent about things.

However, the Octavo stuff looks like your bog-standard chips from BeagleBone/TI just all smashed onto the same substrate. You could decap the module and see if that's true.

Re: BeagleBone Black Wireless

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Post by kscz »

blacksmith_tb wrote: post #32
mintplant wrote: post #25

The link at the bottom goes to https://beagleboard.org/wireless which isn't working for me, but https://beagleboard.org/black-wireless works. Mouser lists the price as $68.75 and element14 as $99.25; neither has any stock yet. There are hardware design source files on https://github.com/beagleboard/beaglebone-black-wireless , including a PDF schematic: https://github.com/beagleboard/beaglebone-black-wireless/raw... w…

Can it be that those prices are imaginary until there's stock? It seems like a nice board (I have a old BBB, with ethernet, and it's solid), but the CHIP [1] gets you wifi and BT for $9... 1: https://getchip.com/pages/chip

But the CHIP uses an Allwinner CPU, and for those of us who like to support manufacturers that actually play nice with the open source community: the CHIP is a no-go.

The specific CPU in the CHIP appears to have mainline support, so it's less terrible than things like the "Banana Pi M2+" ( http://linux-sunxi.org/Sinovoip_Banana_Pi_M2%2B ), but I like to support CPU manufacturers who aren't Allwinner.

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