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Re: $1M VotePlz Sweepstakes

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Post by mikeyouse »

gthtjtkt wrote: post #78
gizmo wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are two parts to it. First it encourages young people to vote. This is important because young people will be the most affected by policies enacted by the next president. This part is non-partisan, because it forces both political parties to take young people more seriously as a voting block. Second it's clearly against Trump, because Trump's base consists of older white people with racial anxiety/anger. Young…

> Second it's clearly against Trump, because Trump's base consists of older white people with racial anxiety/anger. Young people lean democrat, but they don't get out to vote. If you honestly believe this, you are very out of touch with reality. Young voters hate both major party candidates almost equally.

Clinton is a 36-point favorite over Trump with 18-34 year olds:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pr/2016/08/15/poll-finds-...

Re: $1M VotePlz Sweepstakes

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Post by gizmo »

gthtjtkt wrote: post #78
gizmo wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are two parts to it. First it encourages young people to vote. This is important because young people will be the most affected by policies enacted by the next president. This part is non-partisan, because it forces both political parties to take young people more seriously as a voting block. Second it's clearly against Trump, because Trump's base consists of older white people with racial anxiety/anger. Young…

> Second it's clearly against Trump, because Trump's base consists of older white people with racial anxiety/anger. Young people lean democrat, but they don't get out to vote. If you honestly believe this, you are very out of touch with reality. Young voters hate both major party candidates almost equally.

Recent polls (2014) say young people are strongly leaning democrat. This may not match your experience, but then again, I don't believe you can understand a country by extrapolating from your social circle.

http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Prod...

Re: $1M VotePlz Sweepstakes

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Post by web007 »

jhulla wrote: post #37

This is awesome. Encouraging potential voters to engage, understand, and participate in democracy is a good thing. Once registered, hopefully they will stay registered and participate for the rest of their lives. Besides the big name top of the ballot Presidential election there are many down ballot elections to consider. There are house elections, senate elections (in some states), local elections, as well as propos…

I like http://www.peterates.com/ as well, informative and accessible reviews (with vote recommendations) for California propositions.

Re: $1M VotePlz Sweepstakes

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Post by d0lph »

chillwaves wrote: post #69
d0lph wrote: post #33

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You know what they say, if you're not a liberal at 20, you have no heart, and if you're not a conservative by 50, you have no brains.

Never wished I could downvote before today. Not even the (ridiculous) content of the post, so much as.. this is your contribution to the discussion? Spare us.

I'm sorry it wasn't to your liking.

My point was moreso that in the US at least there is a pronounced difference in political affiliation based on age. Notably, that is an old quote, it just seems interesting it holds up.

Re: $1M VotePlz Sweepstakes

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Post by makomk »

mikeyouse wrote: post #81
gthtjtkt wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Second it's clearly against Trump, because Trump's base consists of older white people with racial anxiety/anger. Young people lean democrat, but they don't get out to vote. If you honestly believe this, you are very out of touch with reality. Young voters hate both major party candidates almost equally.

Clinton is a 36-point favorite over Trump with 18-34 year olds: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pr/2016/08/15/poll-finds-...

Yeah, 18-34 year olds are a lot more willing to support Clinton than Trump, and also the age group with the most Clinton supporters and the least Trump supporters. It's easy to get a different impression from the mainstream press sometimes because they're pissed off that young people aren't even more overwhelmingly supportive of Clinton and some of them are supporting third parties instead. They came to believe that young people's anti-Republican lean would mean automatic Democrat victory in future and now they're angry that it hasn't come to pass.

Re: $1M VotePlz Sweepstakes

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Post by lintiness »

hellogoodbyeeee wrote: post #76
lintiness wrote: post #70

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let me guess, romney was "too robotic" and "didn't stand for anything" ... ?

I don't see how my opinion of Romney's personality has any bearing on Clinton's resume.

of course you don't. romney's probably the single most experienced, best qualified candidate for president the nation's ever seen. that you believe a woman who's ridden the coattails of her husband to office is somehow more "experienced" is telling.

Re: $1M VotePlz Sweepstakes

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Post by hellogoodbyeeee »

lintiness wrote: post #87
hellogoodbyeeee wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see how my opinion of Romney's personality has any bearing on Clinton's resume.

of course you don't. romney's probably the single most experienced, best qualified candidate for president the nation's ever seen. that you believe a woman who's ridden the coattails of her husband to office is somehow more "experienced" is telling.

Is this a joke? You are completely dismissing the accomplishments of a senator and a secretary of state because she is a woman?

Lots of governors run for president. Very few senator/sec of state/first ladies do.

Edit: Mitt Romney wasn't even a two term Governor. Gary Johnson is objectively a better qualified candidate

Re: $1M VotePlz Sweepstakes

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Post by r00fus »

gizmo wrote: post #47
alva wrote: post #9

Not a criticism! Replace benefitting party as you wish. It is interesting when these initiatives present themselves as non-partisan. If you target a demographic that polling suggests will go for your preferred party, plough tons of money to encourage them to vote, can it truly be described as non-partisan? edit: And if so, should they be obligated to disclose their preference and intention?

There are two parts to it. First it encourages young people to vote. This is important because young people will be the most affected by policies enacted by the next president. This part is non-partisan, because it forces both political parties to take young people more seriously as a voting block. Second it's clearly against Trump, because Trump's base consists of older white people with racial anxiety/anger. Young…

Arguably, YC leadership is overbalanced towards Trump [1].

As someone who has a preference, I wholeheartedly support more enfranchisement regardless of demographic or party. That's a race to the top, not the bottom.

[1] http://fortune.com/2016/07/21/peter-thiel-gives-full-throate...

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