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Re: Computer Vision Syndrome

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Post by edroche »

pmoriarty wrote: post #8

"He recommended I use a hot compress at least once a week for 10 minutes and to look away from the screen in a method called the 20-20-20-20 rule. Every 20 minutes take 20 seconds to look at an object at least 20 feet away and blink 20 times." Is there any evidence that this treatment actually works?

I can only provide anecdotal evidence, and I was not officially diagnosed with it, but I definitely have plenty of the issues listed. Since I adopted the Pomodoro Technique (25min work, 5min break), I have noticed that a lot of my symptoms have subsided. My biggest issues were headaches and blurry vision.

Re: Computer Vision Syndrome

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Post by unethical_ban »

excalibur wrote: post #4

YOU get SSI, and YOU get SSI... and YOU, and YOU. Disability checks all around! EDIT: Thanks for all the downvotes guys, it's good to know that humor has no place here.

To be honest, humor really doesn't have a place at HN when not accompanied by an attempt at a real contribution to the discussion.

Re: Computer Vision Syndrome

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Post by richrichardsson »

excalibur wrote: post #4

YOU get SSI, and YOU get SSI... and YOU, and YOU. Disability checks all around! EDIT: Thanks for all the downvotes guys, it's good to know that humor has no place here.

> it's good to know that humor has no place here.

If you want to crack jokes, head to Reddit.

I find the lack of that kind of rubbish here refreshing.

Re: Computer Vision Syndrome

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Post by matwood »

kowdermeister wrote: post #17
dazmax wrote: post #5

Anyone know of a break-taking app that watches your activity and can wait until you've lost focus on your work before reminding you to take a break? Something like the alarms that wake you up at the right point in your sleep cycle. It would probably need to have a cut-off eventually, but I'd hate to be interrupted in the middle of tracing some complex logic if there's a perfect stopping point 10 minutes later.

It's called a dog :)

You joke, but it's true. I've also started sitting in a large room in my house where it's easy to look and focus at a long distance.

The more I think about it, the more of these issues that get solved naturally when working remote/at home.

Re: Computer Vision Syndrome

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Post by iagooar »

kowdermeister wrote: post #17
dazmax wrote: post #5

Anyone know of a break-taking app that watches your activity and can wait until you've lost focus on your work before reminding you to take a break? Something like the alarms that wake you up at the right point in your sleep cycle. It would probably need to have a cut-off eventually, but I'd hate to be interrupted in the middle of tracing some complex logic if there's a perfect stopping point 10 minutes later.

It's called a dog :)

My dog does definitely NOT wait until I lose my focus ;)

Re: Computer Vision Syndrome

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Post by mod »

stronglikedan wrote: post #20
mod wrote: post #12

My retired optometrist friend recommended that I wear reading glasses with a very low power at all times while using the computer, and I do that now. They're .75x or 1x, I can't remember. I don't need them--nothing is blurry without them--but they help your lenses to relax by doing some of their work at close distances. The condition he wants me to avoid is called nearpoint stress, but sounds very similar to me (a la…

I just wish local drugstores sold sub +1.00 reading glasses. I've only been able to find them online, so it becomes a game of buy +0.25, +0.50, and +0.75, and then go through the hassle of returning two of them (likely at a loss). Optometrists may carry them, but they're so much more expensive than anywhere else. Anyone know of a better solution to find the strength that's right for me?

I found a pair at the dollar store once (+1).

My +0.75 pair I found walmart.

That said, I often find the same thing as you, that nobody sells them. It's very hit-and-miss, so I just check the racks frequently and see what turns up.

Re: Computer Vision Syndrome

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Post by athenot »

kowdermeister wrote: post #17
dazmax wrote: post #5

Anyone know of a break-taking app that watches your activity and can wait until you've lost focus on your work before reminding you to take a break? Something like the alarms that wake you up at the right point in your sleep cycle. It would probably need to have a cut-off eventually, but I'd hate to be interrupted in the middle of tracing some complex logic if there's a perfect stopping point 10 minutes later.

It's called a dog :)

Or children (when working at home).

Or managers (when in the office). :)

Joking aside, I view this as a necessary balance required in life. Even if my primary activity needs a lot of solo concentration, I must embrace the distactions as having value for reasons mentioned in the article. We are not ultra-specialized machines, even if we specialize in very narrow fields, we still live a life that comes with variety, diversity and in an environment filled with beneficial chaos.

Re: Computer Vision Syndrome

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Post by AJ007 »

I think there is something with reading angle too: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/aos.13148/abstrac...

"Reading in a sitting posture at myopia onset predicted the greatest myopic progression to adulthood and reading face up on one's back the lowest. Reading with eyes on turned more downwards was slightly connected with greater myopic progression."

I had some major vision problems a couple of years ago, to the point I didn't touch a computer for about 4 months. iPad and iPhone screens weren't bothering me so I got to keep working.

My suggestion to people having severe problems is to strip apart every variable and test. A few things I have suspicions about which I have rarely seen addressed:

- switching between low & high DPI screens

- lights/screens which are not on the same frequency

- viewing angle (referring back to the myopia study.) Prior to a standing desk I would always lean back in my chair - going back to when I was like 11 years old.

From my opinion, if you took best practices and worst practices, and then like did all the worst ones you would be fucked pretty quickly. You could take someone in great health and give them chronic pain in weeks or a few month. Doctor's advice shouldn't be ignored, especially when something fatal may be occurring, but in many cases they may have no helpful advice.

Ergonomic / RSI / Carpel tunnel issues apply here as well. I've mentioned before I had severe RSI with chronic, 24/7 pain for years, and exhaustive attempts to fix it eventually cured it. Unfortunately as I get older I've also had to acknowledge that our bodies get less and less capable of fixing themselves. At the least we can try really hard to do things which aren't aggravating the decline.

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