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In Brooklyn, Uber is now bigger than taxis

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Re: In Brooklyn, Uber is now bigger than taxis

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UberX is becoming UberLateModelPrius here in SF

I'm less concerned about it being UberLateModelPrius (a not-fancy car was always part of the deal with X), but I've noticed last time in SF it was becoming UberFilthyLateModelPriusWithRudeDriver. That I do mind. They're becoming just like the cabs they replaced, just without the brightly colored paint jobs.

And insurance policies + regulations (even if said regulations go unenforced more than they should).

Re: In Brooklyn, Uber is now bigger than taxis

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>>> Recommended pickup locations -> No longer door to door? Assigning next rides before the previous one has completed -> No longer "feeling like a baller" while your driver is fielding calls from other customers with you still in the car Above is applicable only if you use UberPool. It's a great way to save money.

Nope. I've had one of the above (or both) happen for all 5 of my most recent Manhattan UberX rides. To be clear, I'm not talking about someone joining your UberPool ride. I'm cool with that, I chose Pool after all. I'm talking about how now, Uber will assign your current driver to his next rider before your ride has ended. As in, he will drop you off and he will already have been assigned the next rider to pick up. I…

I live in Manhattan and use uber ~10 times weekly. I've never observed the behavior you describe with uberX, only uberPOOL.

The UI does show you if the driver is finishing a ride near you, but it doesn't tell you to meet him at their dropoff point. It also tries to recommend known "visible" pickup locations along the street where you're calling from, but you can always specify your own location.

Do either of these things sound like what you're thinking of...?

Re: In Brooklyn, Uber is now bigger than taxis

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When I moved to New York a few years ago all it took was a handful of taxi rides to figure out that Uber will eventually put them out of the business. I've had drivers lie about not knowing where to go, intentionally take longer routes, and lie about credit card machines while trying to get rides from New York to Brooklyn, or Brooklyn to Brooklyn. To add insult to injury nearly every single cab is filthy and smells h…

Important point: while costing to the customer the same, if not more. The result? Uber operating at huge losses. The result of that? Well, austerity measures. You can already see the signs of Uber starting to clamp down and make their service worse and worse. Recommended pickup locations -> No longer door to door? Assigning next rides before the previous one has completed -> No longer "feeling like a baller" while yo…

Just noticed my uber in Chicago this weekend was roughly $2.50 more than normal. (I take the same uber ride every weekend) I'm not sure if prices have gone up but it is frustrating.

Re: In Brooklyn, Uber is now bigger than taxis

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When I moved to New York a few years ago all it took was a handful of taxi rides to figure out that Uber will eventually put them out of the business. I've had drivers lie about not knowing where to go, intentionally take longer routes, and lie about credit card machines while trying to get rides from New York to Brooklyn, or Brooklyn to Brooklyn. To add insult to injury nearly every single cab is filthy and smells h…

In contrast to that, in Los Angeles, Uber drivers quite often are not familiar with the area they serve, so they are glued to their navigation apps. This can not only create unsafe driving conditions, but sometimes can cause an Uber ride to take twice as long as a taxi ride.

If convenience, comfort, and customer service are not a priority, and I just need to get somewhere fast, the taxi is still the way to go.

Re: In Brooklyn, Uber is now bigger than taxis

#37

When I moved to New York a few years ago all it took was a handful of taxi rides to figure out that Uber will eventually put them out of the business. I've had drivers lie about not knowing where to go, intentionally take longer routes, and lie about credit card machines while trying to get rides from New York to Brooklyn, or Brooklyn to Brooklyn. To add insult to injury nearly every single cab is filthy and smells h…

I can tell you that among Black people in Brooklyn, Uber was a god-send. Cabs would outright lie as mentioned above, refuse to take you to certain boroughs, refuse to pick you up from Manhattan, etc. Agreed that the cab experience is about half as good, but for about the same price. Really a no-brainer. Everyone here uses AND loves Uber. I and a lot of my friends spend at least $100/mo outside of work commute costs.…

I remember reading this blog piece regarding Ubering while black, and it improved my opinion of the company/"taxi startup" industry: https://medium.com/matter/ubering-while-black-146db581b9db#....

Re: In Brooklyn, Uber is now bigger than taxis

#38

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Important point: while costing to the customer the same, if not more. The result? Uber operating at huge losses. The result of that? Well, austerity measures. You can already see the signs of Uber starting to clamp down and make their service worse and worse. Recommended pickup locations -> No longer door to door? Assigning next rides before the previous one has completed -> No longer "feeling like a baller" while yo…

Uber just have to survive until self-driving cars are a reality.

So maybe another decade or two? I'm not sure a 'just' is fair when aiming for something never done before.

Re: In Brooklyn, Uber is now bigger than taxis

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As someone who lived in Manhattan and just moved to Brooklyn, I can totally see why Uber is more popular than taxis. For one it usually costs less. And two, depending on where you live there is no guarantee a taxi is around the corner. Uber is more convenient.

> depending on where you live there is no guarantee a taxi is around the corner

Exactly. You go to a warehouse party in East Williamsburg and it's 5 AM and feel like going home. The public transit situation in Brooklyn would make that trip take a while (wait 20 minutes for the L, get off, wait 20 minutes for the G, or alternatively wait an hour for the next bus). And what kind of yellow cab is going to hang around an industrial district waiting for a fare? Uber wins every time.

It's the density thing. The taxi model works well enough in Manhattan because there are enough people around the hot spots to provide off-the-street fares. A lot of things that work in Manhattan don't always transfer easily to the lower-density reality of the rest of the city/country.

Re: In Brooklyn, Uber is now bigger than taxis

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Having lived in NYC pre-and-post Uber, the difference in Manhattan traffic is astonishing. Manhattan 2006: http://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-2475317-stock-footage... Manhattan now(ish): http://cdn.newsday.com/polopoly_fs/1.12078243.1469201706!/ht... If you were to teleport a Manhattanite from 2006 to 2016 I think they'd be shocked to see the large number of non-yellow cabs on NYC streets. Regardless of how you f…

Surely you are joking? Your evidence in the "difference" is a shutterstock video clip and a jpeg? I don't even understand what you are trying to show. I see plenty of taxis in both.

"If you were to teleport a Manhattanite from 2006 to 2016 I think they'd be shocked to see the large number of non-yellow cabs on NYC streets."

They would be shocked? Shocked to see the presence of something that didn't even exist a decade earlier?

What might "astonish" a Manhattanite is the fact that there are there are so many more taxis on the street now than there were is 2006, and this increase is year over year for the last decade. Example in 2014 there 48,580 taxis in 2015 the last year for which there is data there were 63,261 taxis. It's never been easier to get a cab.

source city data: http://www.nyc.gov/html/tlc/downloads/pdf/hail_market_analys...

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