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Re: Project Shield

#61

Off topic - ish But this site is broken at even modest levels of zoom. Content hanging off the left of the window and no scroll bar :-(

That's part of the design, click on Close in the upper-left corner then use the site menu to see it in action.

Re: Project Shield

#62

Of course I'm not blaming Google or Cloudflare, but it is kind of sad that larger and larger part of the Internet is moving behind their networks. I don't think this kind of centralization is good for the Internet.

another option is to host your blog on a decentralised network like IPFS. Though a massive DDoS would annoy people who use it, it's unlikely it would bring it down.

Better security models for internet connected devices is ultimately needed so people can't build these kind of botnets in the first place.

Re: Project Shield

#63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I follow your link https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/09/the-democratization-of-c... and I get this: 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable shield So it seems to be running shield, but at least part of the attacks are still getting through? :( Would be very nice to know what kind of attacks Shield doesn't shield against etc.

Completely down from here too. I may need to retract my comments about Akamai. Apparently 680gbps (or whatever it's at now) is the total amount of traffic the busiest site on the internet can be hosed with before the internet itself poops the bed. So, you know, we did learn something from this whole saga.

Do you have source and is it possible you know what's so magical about that number?

Re: Project Shield

#64
> 'Disrupt online radicalization and propaganda'

Well, it's cute that they only mention ISIS, but the same exact means can and are being used to suppress political dissent and unpopular opinion, while google is the master of spreading consumer propaganda and spying on people.

> 'End repressive censorship'

The commercialization of news is the best form of censorship. You don't need to censor much when the vast majority of news is meaningless bullshit stuffed with ads and promotions, and is already controlled by organizations like Google.

> 'Crime and corruption thrive in the absence of transparency. As long as criminal organizations and corrupt institutions can operate without scrutiny, they will continue to use modern tools to conceal their behavior. But injustice and corruption — from atrocities on the battlefield to money laundering to organized crime — leave behind information that can be used to understand these challenges and work to stop them.'

Google is one of these organizations that operate without scrutiny and transparency alongside organizations such as the NSA.

If you think Google will help you with anonymity, free speech, or 'unfiltered' news, you are retarded.

Re: Project Shield

#65

> We’ve met news organizations around the world who suffer crippling digital attacks when they publish something controversial. Good...except Google doesn't protect you from such attacks once the US gov deems it illegal. We need a safe, anonymous protocol not the network of X corporation.

So... Tor?

Tor can obfuscate the origin of https requests (assumedly, if we continue to believe Tor isn't infiltrated and surveiled, which it probably is). It cannot protect against DDoS attacks.

Re: Project Shield

#66

Rather than seeking a technical solution, I wonder if there is a social one. If Google promised to upweight DDOSed articles in their (news) rankings in perpetuity, that's a strong incentive not to DDOS. It also makes sense that material one person is spending resource trying to suppress is extremely likely to be interesting to others, so it's not necessarily a bad experience for someone using the Google news. Obvious…

> Rather than seeking a technical solution, I wonder if there is a social one.

there's always a social solution if you're enough of a utopian idealist. why do we go to war? isn't there a social solution? can't we all just get along?

technology steps in and makes the ground truth of the situation something incontrovertible and not subject to social disagreement. we need it specifically because we cannot rely on social solutions.

Re: Project Shield

#67
So, does that mean Google (and thus the American State) MitM your website traffic to protect free speech? I am thrilled! I am so happy that at least large corporations that cooperate with the ever-more pervasive surveillance state care about our privacy. /s

That's how you defeat HTTPS.

Re: Project Shield

#68
post #64

> 'Disrupt online radicalization and propaganda' Well, it's cute that they only mention ISIS, but the same exact means can and are being used to suppress political dissent and unpopular opinion, while google is the master of spreading consumer propaganda and spying on people. > 'End repressive censorship' The commercialization of news is the best form of censorship. You don't need to censor much when the vast majorit…

You had me nodding in agreement until the very last word. Don't ruin it.

Re: Project Shield

#69
post #64

> 'Disrupt online radicalization and propaganda' Well, it's cute that they only mention ISIS, but the same exact means can and are being used to suppress political dissent and unpopular opinion, while google is the master of spreading consumer propaganda and spying on people. > 'End repressive censorship' The commercialization of news is the best form of censorship. You don't need to censor much when the vast majorit…

You had me nodding in agreement until the very last word. Don't ruin it.

That's the spirit! Report me for maximum effect. Stupid cunt.

Re: Project Shield

#70
post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So... Tor?

The botnet attacking Krebs could in all likelihood take down the entire Tor network.

The advertised bandwidth for the whole network is much lower than the 600+GBps that's attacking Kerbs it's a little under 200 GBps.

https://metrics.torproject.org/bandwidth.html

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