After years of trying, it still looks very bad on KDE, and even worse with a custom color scheme. Fix that, and I'll switch immediately.
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Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
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Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
#212Earlier quoted context omitted.
The public at large will never be swayed to use less convenient alternatives for ethical reasons. But even so, if a small, dedicated group of people are convinced, they can keep the ethical alternative just alive enough that it remains a somewhat viable alternative. I don't think vegetarianism will ever be the norm, but there are enough vegetarians to create a market for vegetarian food. This creates options for peop…
Vegetarianism can be the norm, but for that to happen one of two things must happen: either the cost of meat has to be prohibitively expensive ("the stick") or vegetarian dishes have to be more appealing to the public at large ("the carrot"). Neither of those things have happened yet. For Firefox to gain market share, either the perceived "cost" of using Chrome has to skyrocket or Firefox has to be superior for a com…
> For Firefox to gain market share, either the perceived "cost" of using Chrome has to skyrocket or Firefox has to be superior for a common use case.
It wouldn't hurt either if we nerds, pros, superusers etc etc stopped spreading FUD like "Chrome is way better".
Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
#213Earlier quoted context omitted.
Firefox can cope with hundreds of tabs just fine. Way better than Chrome can cope with a similar workload, both in terms of memory usage and UI (Chrome winds up with tabs only a few pixels wide, with no information visible!). Firefox’s reputation is because of its history: when Chrome was new it did perform really well and Firefox did have serious performance issues. Chrome has been marvellous for Firefox. The sad th…
Hundreds? No way. It runs like crap with a few dozen tabs and I always have to restart it so it doesn't start slowing down and behaving badly.
It feels like I have hundreds more often than not and days between reboots. (W10 mostly now)
Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
#214Earlier quoted context omitted.
Vegetarianism can be the norm, but for that to happen one of two things must happen: either the cost of meat has to be prohibitively expensive ("the stick") or vegetarian dishes have to be more appealing to the public at large ("the carrot"). Neither of those things have happened yet. For Firefox to gain market share, either the perceived "cost" of using Chrome has to skyrocket or Firefox has to be superior for a com…
People are far removed from seeing the actual results of their decisions. Humans are also very good at self deception. Even if you sort of know your beef is butchered, it carries little meaning since you never have to see it happen. Same goes for Google stealing your data or Apple making pretty phones with slave labor. Basically pretty much everybody needs to be smacked hard with a stick now and then and told what ki…
Humans are also very good at self deception. Even if you sort of know your beef is butchered, it carries little meaning since you never have to see it happen.
I never understood this argument vis-a-vis butchering, since it implies pastoral farmers are particularly immoral people, unlike "regular" people who would stop their behaviour if only they'd see the results. Is that really your view?
In my opinion, the opposite is true: growing up ignorant of how it works is the only reason why they may be shocked when they find out. If it was a common sight, people would be OK with it just like most people growing up in farms are.
Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
#215As someone who manages a 450-user IT department (academic), supporting roughly 50/50 BYOD/supplied computers, and staring at my stats, Firefox is the most reliable browser. We see %300 more problems with Chrome than Firefox. Reading the comments my suspicion is that what shortcomings it does have affects the hacker news crowd a disproportionate amount more than usual, or affects the academic crowd disproportionately…
I prefer Firefox over Chrome for several reasons, including usability, flexibility and freedom. Could you list down a few things that are problematic, in your experience, with Chrome but are not so in Firefox? Although it could be construed as purely anecdotal, it may provide some insight and understanding into the strengths and weaknesses of the two browsers.
Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
Vegetarianism can be the norm, but for that to happen one of two things must happen: either the cost of meat has to be prohibitively expensive ("the stick") or vegetarian dishes have to be more appealing to the public at large ("the carrot"). Neither of those things have happened yet. For Firefox to gain market share, either the perceived "cost" of using Chrome has to skyrocket or Firefox has to be superior for a com…
People are far removed from seeing the actual results of their decisions. Humans are also very good at self deception. Even if you sort of know your beef is butchered, it carries little meaning since you never have to see it happen. Same goes for Google stealing your data or Apple making pretty phones with slave labor. Basically pretty much everybody needs to be smacked hard with a stick now and then and told what ki…
You're right about self deception but this is a tricky subject. Would you consider worldwide milk production and its products on the same level as your two examples with Google and Apple? Difficult to see how you can get milk without having to handle the question of what to do with male calves. As to butchering, we can know about it and if the 'how' is unacceptable (often is) then we can ensure the law is applied and modified when better solutions are found. Some kind of public access to slaughter houses should be encouraged and people should indeed be acquainted with the raw facts while ensuring they are able to appreciate the consequences of decisions which may be merely emotive feelings decoupled from fact. Both are needed!
Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
#217Earlier quoted context omitted.
Firefox is good. It has support for modern standards, is performant, has tracking protection built in and plenty of extensions. Google is winning because it's bundling its browser just like Microsoft used to and is aggressively advertising it on all of its web properties, which might have a reach of close to 100% of the web-using population. Firefox also has a reputation for being slow, gotten probably from people do…
> Google is winning because it's bundling its browser just like Microsoft used to and is aggressively advertising it on all of its web properties, which might have a reach of close to 100% of the web-using population Not because Chrome is a better browser. All these sheep ( like me ) which get hoodwinked into using Chrome by Google's marketing blitzkrieg. Silly us. But wait, > Firefox also has a reputation for being…
No, I at least just say stop spreading FUD (Firefox is way behind, unusable in 2016 etc)
Saying: I prefer Chrome for reasons x, y and z is fine with me.
Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
#218After years of trying, it still looks very bad on KDE, and even worse with a custom color scheme. Fix that, and I'll switch immediately.
How does it look bad for you? Or rather to say how does it look worse than Chrome, as both browsers do differ completely from the native toolkit...
Well, unless you're using something like QupZilla or Konqueror, but then this blog post doesn't really apply to you anyways.
What I personally do to make Firefox fit in more into KDE is to use the Developer Edition Theme [0], which has a Light and Dark variant, so looks reasonably not-out-of-place for Breeze and Breeze Dark.
[0]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/devedition-th...
There's also this user-style to fix theming issues, which is what I guess you're saying when you refer to a custom color scheme making it look even worse: https://userstyles.org/styles/96657/fix-kde-theming-issues
Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
I maintain a copy of Firefox Developer Edition on my system and I make a concerted effort to open it every few days so it can update itself and so I can test any new sites or blog posts I'm working on. I've tried to switch back to Firefox cold turkey in the past and it never works for me, but I might introduce a personal policy of one week on, one week off, alternating between Firefox and Chrome.
This is the problem. You value your convenience more than your freedom, and the future of privacy.
I'd recommend against this line of reasoning because it makes people feel like they are sacrificing something when they switch, I always argue that IMO and for reasons x, y and z FF is the better choice for power users.
Re: Choose Firefox Now, or Later You Won't Get a Choice (2014)
#220Earlier quoted context omitted.
What did cause you to switch? What follows here are my observations on what are the advantages/disadvantages of the two browsers: The biggest advantage to Chrome that I can think of is it has its own implementation of Flash in it, rather than using the Flash plugin. This allows Chrome to not have another container process, unlike in Firefox which does spawn a container process for Flash, which uses a ton more CPU cyc…
> What did cause you to switch? I'm not GP, but I switched because Chrome had better dev tools. For a while, I was using Firefox for browsing and Chrome for dev, but I ended up using just Chrome. It also didn't help that Firefox dropped its 1st party browser sync (Weave) and Chrome had bookmark & history syncing natively
Firefox dropped its 1st party browser sync (Weave)
No, it didn't. It was renamed to Sync and incorporated into Firefox itself. It works great, it's end-to-end encrypted and it supports nifty features like Send Tab To Device[1] (unlike in Chrome, where you have to either bookmark or keep the tab open on the origin device and then trawl for it on the destination).
[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/send-tab-to-d...