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UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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Is there a browser build or plugin extension that has a separate cookie jar for each tab that follows the tab? My ideal browser has zero persistence and each tab maintains its own cookies. Links opened as new tabs would share the parent's cookie jar, but separate tabs loaded to the same page could both be logged in at the same time.

I think you'll love ghost browser ;) https://ghostbrowser.com/

Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"There was no instance of Eich's views ever influencing anything on his job, and no single instance or evidence of any problem with his job." I don't know if that's true. I don't know how many gay folks work for Mozilla, but I'm 100% it's a non-zero number. They might have had a real problem with his donating to Prop 8. I couldn't say whether they did, being neither gay nor a mozilla employee, but I could imagine it…

>I could imagine it might make them (gay employees) uncomfortable, Nobody likes being uncomfortable, perhaps having gay employees made Eich uncomfortable too. But I don't remember hearing about him forcing anyone out of the company or discriminating against anyone under any circumstance. To prevent his employees from feeling uncomfortable should the government allow Eich to stop hiring gay employees?

> To prevent his employees from feeling uncomfortable should the government allow Eich to stop hiring gay employees?

Oh god, don't give the US Supreme Court any ideas >_>

They already think corporations are people with religious rights, and that discrimination is a thing of the past. This wouldn't be much of a stretch for them at this point.

( You can already refuse to hire gay people (as well as outright fire them) in most states; but Mozilla is headquartered in a state where you can't. If anyone is interested, here is the map: https://mic.com/articles/121496/one-map-shows-where-you-can-... )

Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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While I applaud the effort that's gone into this, I urge people to consider (and use and contribute to!) Firefox. It's one of the last truly open-source browsers - both in terms of source code visibility (which Chrome(ium) has), and in terms of being able to contribute (which Chrome(ium) has not).

Firefox violates user privacy since years by allowing long term tracking cookies to be saved by default without asking the user. Millions of Firefox users lost their privacy without ever being asked about that with the help of Firefox default settings. This long term collaboration with privacy-destroying ad tracking companies disqualifies Firefox as a privacy tool. BTW, yes, this post carries an unusual view of thing…

> Firefox violates user privacy since years by allowing long term tracking cookies to be saved by default without asking the user.

This statement doesn't make sense. All cookies can be tracking cookies and for example all session cookies are tracking cookies by definition.

Assuming for the sake of argument that you're referring to third-party tracking cookies, such as those from Google Analytics, or Facebook, this is the default because it's how the web has always worked. And maybe changing this default is reasonable, much like how browsers started blocking popups at some point, but it's debatable if such actions should be taken or would benefit users.

First of all, blocking third-party cookies by default might break web pages. But even more problematic is that this restriction can be bypassed, as to turn a third-party cookie into a first-party cookie publishers only need to inject some extra Javascript. Also meet http://samy.pl/evercookie/ - In other words, if you really want privacy, blocking third-party cookies isn't enough.

Also Firefox is the only browser that does block trackers in Private Mode, without any plugins needed, a setting that you can also enable to be active all the time: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Privacy/Tracking....

> Millions of Firefox users lost their privacy without ever being asked about that with the help of Firefox default settings.

This statement is factually not true, as it implies that blocking cookies has been the default and thus users had privacy to lose.

> This long term collaboration with privacy-destroying ad tracking companies disqualifies Firefox as a privacy tool.

Out of curiosity, when was the last time you contributed to the Mozilla organization? And if not, then you must have a better idea of how they should make a living, developing software in the open such that people can use it for free. They need a business model and nothing they did thus far had privacy implications for me. If you have a concrete example, I'd love to hear it.

> BTW, yes, this post carries an unusual view of things, but no illegal content - do you believe unusual views should be censored?

It's not an unusual view, it's just a silly one and silly views are quite common.

Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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While I applaud the effort that's gone into this, I urge people to consider (and use and contribute to!) Firefox. It's one of the last truly open-source browsers - both in terms of source code visibility (which Chrome(ium) has), and in terms of being able to contribute (which Chrome(ium) has not).

Since I work on Chromium, I kind of care about this... We're still an open source project. We still take a lot of external contributions, as far as I know. Can you point to concrete cases where Chromium has not taken contributions (without giving a good reason, that is)?

It's probably hard to point out a specific case, but I think the biggest objection is that most Chromium developers have a tight connection with Google (if not employees anyway). They have mostly incentive to keep their employer happy. Google keeps the shareholders happy and they just want more money. (At the cost of privacy or open standards for example). Now this may be a simplified view, since this may apply to any company. However, Mozilla has some core principles they really try to stick to.

Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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post #280

Is there a browser build or plugin extension that has a separate cookie jar for each tab that follows the tab? My ideal browser has zero persistence and each tab maintains its own cookies. Links opened as new tabs would share the parent's cookie jar, but separate tabs loaded to the same page could both be logged in at the same time.

I think you'll love ghost browser ;) https://ghostbrowser.com/

From their page:

> Each group of tabs, separated by color, is its own browsing session with its own cookie jar

Yes!

> Log in to one web site with many accounts simultaneously

Yes!

> Use with Mac OS X or Windows

No!

Would need a Linux build as well (actually that's the only one I need). Otherwise, looks cool though and will be keeping an eye on it. Thanks for sharing!

Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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post #280

Is there a browser build or plugin extension that has a separate cookie jar for each tab that follows the tab? My ideal browser has zero persistence and each tab maintains its own cookies. Links opened as new tabs would share the parent's cookie jar, but separate tabs loaded to the same page could both be logged in at the same time.

I think you'll love ghost browser ;) https://ghostbrowser.com/

All I get is 403.

Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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post #280

Is there a browser build or plugin extension that has a separate cookie jar for each tab that follows the tab? My ideal browser has zero persistence and each tab maintains its own cookies. Links opened as new tabs would share the parent's cookie jar, but separate tabs loaded to the same page could both be logged in at the same time.

I think you'll love ghost browser ;) https://ghostbrowser.com/

Looks interesting but I wouldn't trust a closed source browser.

Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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post #280

Is there a browser build or plugin extension that has a separate cookie jar for each tab that follows the tab? My ideal browser has zero persistence and each tab maintains its own cookies. Links opened as new tabs would share the parent's cookie jar, but separate tabs loaded to the same page could both be logged in at the same time.

I think you'll love ghost browser ;) https://ghostbrowser.com/

Sounded good, so I typed in an email address on their registration form. Then:

> Create an Account Password (You will use this to log in to the browser to activate it)

Uhm, no.

Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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post #280

Is there a browser build or plugin extension that has a separate cookie jar for each tab that follows the tab? My ideal browser has zero persistence and each tab maintains its own cookies. Links opened as new tabs would share the parent's cookie jar, but separate tabs loaded to the same page could both be logged in at the same time.

Keep in mind that cookies are just one of the many "storage backends" that websites can potentially use to track you.

There are stealth techniques such as browser cache hits, browser configuration fingerprinting, and even system clock drift, that can track you beyond cookies.

You would need a separate browser profile or even a separate OS for each tab (see Qubes OS) to be on the safe side.

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