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Re: Project Shield

#31

Of course I'm not blaming Google or Cloudflare, but it is kind of sad that larger and larger part of the Internet is moving behind their networks. I don't think this kind of centralization is good for the Internet.

It's the feudalism age of the internet. Everyone needs a lord for protection.

Re: Project Shield

#32
post #25

"Safer from attacks on free speech" Good. Host a mirror of wikileaks and let's talk.

Is this something Wikileaks requested but Google turned them down? I'm wondering if there's some context to your comment or if you're just being dismissive.

Re: Project Shield

#33
post #31

Of course I'm not blaming Google or Cloudflare, but it is kind of sad that larger and larger part of the Internet is moving behind their networks. I don't think this kind of centralization is good for the Internet.

It's the feudalism age of the internet. Everyone needs a lord for protection.

Better than nation states.

Re: Project Shield

#37
> We’ve met news organizations around the world who suffer crippling digital attacks when they publish something controversial.

Good...except Google doesn't protect you from such attacks once the US gov deems it illegal. We need a safe, anonymous protocol not the network of X corporation.

Re: Project Shield

#38
post #33
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the feudalism age of the internet. Everyone needs a lord for protection.

Better than nation states.

That's interesting, in the context of a quote from the KerbsOnSecurity piece which prompted this post:

John Gilmore, an American entrepreneur and civil libertarian, once famously quipped that “the Internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.” This notion undoubtedly rings true for those who see national governments as the principal threats to free speech.

However, events of the past week have convinced me that one of the fastest-growing censorship threats on the Internet today comes not from nation-states, but from super-empowered individuals who have been quietly building extremely potent cyber weapons with transnational reach.[1]

and also:

But as my friend and mentor Roland Dobbins at Arbor Networks eloquently put it, “When it comes to DDoS attacks, nation-states are just another player.”

[1] https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/09/the-democratization-of-c...

Re: Project Shield

#39
Kudos to both Krebs and Google for their courage. I have profound admiration for Brian's work and Google's technology.

I didn't know about Project Shield and I think it's an interesting initiative. However, for some reason it leaves me a bit unease (not as much as the idea of being taken down by a 650Gbps DDoS at will!) - not sure what it is, but we might be moving towards an Internet where only the "approved" would have "free" speech.

I really hope ISP naming and shaming takes over, so we can make DDoS a little bit more difficult.

Re: Project Shield

#40
Great, now the political status quo are even more under Google protection. What is the selection criteria? To receive money from some of americans NGOs? Hold yourselves, more Arab Springs are coming.
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