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I stopped contributing to stackoverflow, but it's not declining

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Re: I stopped contributing to stackoverflow, but it's not declining

#2
I don't think SO is declining either. I myself don't contribute that much anymore either, but I used to. Mostly because of reasons stated in this article.

There are some valid points though for both contributing and not contributing to SO. The fact that you need to be 'really fast' to answer questions does indeed hold mostly for the simple answers. And actually there I found that it's best to write a short, concise answer to the question and post that - more chance of being first - and then alter your question to add additional information that was not crucial, but still nice to have.

Anyway, SO is still a good resource for problems that are not that esoteric. With esoteric questions, the odds of someone finding your question and being able to answer it in reasonable time is smaller, and you're probably better of either looking through the docs yourself or, if possible, looking at the open-source code.

That it's hostile to newbies could be true. But it can also be hostile to people who have been using the site for quite some time. That is, unfortunately, part of the internet these days. Trolls are hard to avoid on websites with a big community.

Re: I stopped contributing to stackoverflow, but it's not declining

#3
BTW: Do competition sites have an army of downvoters to bury leaked questions (it's kind of frustrating when one spends time answering one of the rare more interesting questions and it gets downvoted into oblivion because of a duplicate that wasn't answered properly and then also disappears...)

Re: I stopped contributing to stackoverflow, but it's not declining

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I don't quite agree as someone with few points on StackOverflow the mods can be quite hostile and inflexible when it comes to the rules.

For instance I found a browser bug in the code submitted on a stack overflow answer [1] and I edited it and it got rejected because it wasn't in the spirit of what the original author intended or something like that.

I also had no way of replying to the rejection motivating what my reasoning was and maybe reinstating it luckily the original author got in touch and fixed it himself later on.

At that point I wasn't even able to comment on the reply since I didn't have enough points so I would ague the barrier to entry is quite high if all you want to do is just fix a few mistakes you spot while using the site.

Also there are multiple communities like Ask Ubuntu, Server Fault each with their own points which means I run into the same problem over and over again even though I have proven myself on anther sister community.

[1](http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12131273/twitter-bootstra...)

Re: I stopped contributing to stackoverflow, but it's not declining

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top 2% here

i can understand the reasoning but i left SO when they broke it into pieces with StackExchange network

i actually enjoyed stuff like code golfs, joke questions (minus endless flow of repetitive xkcd references)

have always been interested in THAT programming part where problem meets consciousness meets technology. spent a lot of time puzzling around questions on design, patterns - more ethereal side of programming

nowadays stuff like that gets quickly eliminated

and more technical questions often gets spammed with shallow bullshit i've already checked couple of times

Re: I stopped contributing to stackoverflow, but it's not declining

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post #4

I don't quite agree as someone with few points on StackOverflow the mods can be quite hostile and inflexible when it comes to the rules. For instance I found a browser bug in the code submitted on a stack overflow answer [1] and I edited it and it got rejected because it wasn't in the spirit of what the original author intended or something like that. I also had no way of replying to the rejection motivating what my…

They actually give you 101 points on every new site if you're a proven user, which lets you comment.

Re: I stopped contributing to stackoverflow, but it's not declining

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I still use SO every day, and also have enough rep to be an editor, and I don't think it's in decline. But I have also stopped answering to questions. Mostly because the race to be the first to answer easy questions to get rep stopped being fun very early on, and there are only a few interesting questions among all the "do my homework for me" and barely comprehensible questions.

As for editing, editors come in all shape and form, and let's be honest, developers can often be opinionated so and so's who can spend hours debating tabs vs. spaces. I think the moderating reflects what we are as a community, I'm afraid. For example, I always reject any edit that only changes the format of the code because I find it a complete waste of time. I am sure there are other mods who would do the opposite, and actually go and reformat code in as many questions as they can find. Who's to say one approach is right and the other wrong? There aren't actually any guidelines in the modding pages.

It does get annoying sometimes; for example, I was refused the tag vanilla-js because of reasons by someone who didn't even seem to be a js developer. Had a few heated discussions, in the end the mods won. But hey, you know what? Who cares, the site is still useful

What are the realistic alternatives? Quora?

Re: I stopped contributing to stackoverflow, but it's not declining

#8
Stackoverflow works great for me, and I don't know why more people don't appear to use it like I do.

1) When you've got a problem, Google it. 98% of the time the answer will be in top 5 links to stackoverflow or documentation. You upvote the answer and question.

2) 1.5% of the time, stackoverflow will have a related question, but either it doesn't have an answer, or the answer has issues.

You figure it out yourself, so you post a comment or answer or just the crappy workaround you used because you ran out of time to figure it out completely.

3) The remaining 0.5% of the time, you get nothing. You post a question, but of course nobody answers because it's an esoteric, hard question. 24 hours later you post an answer to your own question, or more likely a crappy workaround.

And eventually somebody posts a great answer to your question. (Once this happened to me >3 years after I posted it!) It's way too late for you, but it will help the next person with the same problem.

You don't get a lot of karma quickly this way since you're posting esoteric stuff, but you do tend to pick up some badges that are designed to reward this sort of behaviour, like "Populist" and "Necromancer". You do pick up karma slowly and steadily, though. What's satisfying is seeing an answer tick over from zero to one ~12 months after you posted it, realising that you saved somebody hours of frustration.

If you answer an easy question, you've saved somebody a few minutes. When you answer a hard one, you've saved hours or days.

Re: I stopped contributing to stackoverflow, but it's not declining

#9

  you can’t easily ask a question without having it downvoted,
  marked as duplicate, or commented on in a negative way
I wouldn't really agree. If the question is clear and even if it is a FAQ, then you'd not receive answers but also upvotes (for posting a FAQ) especially in popular tags such as python, regex, java.

That said, there are several other problems with SO:

- too many poor quality questions

- too many poor quality accepted and highly upvoted answers

- activity in a limited number of tags

- the reputation (apparently virtual bitcoins) cause the overall answer quality to decline (search for "Fastest gun in the west problem" on meta SE)

Re: I stopped contributing to stackoverflow, but it's not declining

#10

Stackoverflow works great for me, and I don't know why more people don't appear to use it like I do. 1) When you've got a problem, Google it. 98% of the time the answer will be in top 5 links to stackoverflow or documentation. You upvote the answer and question. 2) 1.5% of the time, stackoverflow will have a related question, but either it doesn't have an answer, or the answer has issues. You figure it out yourself,…

Concur. I remember the days prior to Stackoverflow (where the average search for a programming question landed me on expertsexchange).

They were not good days.

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