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Re: Japanese Can Soon Pay Their Utility Bills with Bitcoin

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What is the advantage of this? Here in Japan every creditcard is giving you some kind of bonus program and encourages you to use that card for your bills so you automatically aggregate amazon / rakuten (japanese amazon competitor) / ANA / etc points. I mean, I guess I could exchange every month my yen into bitcoins and then pay with it, but why?

What is the disadvantage of having another choice of payment ?

Re: Japanese Can Soon Pay Their Utility Bills with Bitcoin

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, that is very interesting. I am not knowledgable about Japanese culture, so my answer was addressing "why pay with Bitcoin" generally.

Japanese culture is so hard to predict when it comes to tech uptake - you see an 80-year old man play with his Nintendo DS at the bus stop, Kyoto City is covered by free Wifi, Internet is fast and cheap, but the ATM closes down at 6pm and your hotel room advertises free fax (which you may actually end up needing)

Atm does not close anymore at 6pm. You are 10 years behind.

Re: Japanese Can Soon Pay Their Utility Bills with Bitcoin

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A friend of mine who lives in Tokyo told me that in Japan it's near impossible to transfer money from one bank to another. He told me the way Japanese people transfer money between banks was to draw the cash out in one and pay it in to another. I'm prepared to be corrected if this tale isn't true. However, with this in mind, it seems like quite a leap from a non-electronic intra-bank system to Bitcoin. On the other h…

False. Its easy to do bank transfers but you have to pay fees even for domestic transfers.

Re: Japanese Can Soon Pay Their Utility Bills with Bitcoin

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post #3

* Some Japanese * Electricity Bill

The rollout map includes Kanto (Tokyo), Kansai (Osaka, Kyoto), Chubu (Nagoya), that is the majority of population in Japan: 42,607,376 + 22,755,030 + 21,714,995 = 87,077,401 out of a total of 127,110,047, 68.5% Bigger map on homepage: https://coincheck.com/en/blog/2353

You forgot Kobe in Kansai.

Re: Japanese Can Soon Pay Their Utility Bills with Bitcoin

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A friend of mine who lives in Tokyo told me that in Japan it's near impossible to transfer money from one bank to another. He told me the way Japanese people transfer money between banks was to draw the cash out in one and pay it in to another. I'm prepared to be corrected if this tale isn't true. However, with this in mind, it seems like quite a leap from a non-electronic intra-bank system to Bitcoin. On the other h…

I wouldn't say near impossible but I think it's definitely much more inconvenient than in other countries. Just the other day I had to move some money between my bank accounts and did exactly that with the ATMs. Because online banking here is a atrocious and I didn't want to deal with any transfer fees.

Re: Japanese Can Soon Pay Their Utility Bills with Bitcoin

#27
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> The service is the first of its kind in Japan, where Bitcoin is still a novelty in daily consumer life. Where is Bitcoin not a novelty in daily consumer life?

Definitely not a novelty. Lots of people use it to pay for ransomware.

If my stuff got held for bitcoin ransom, I would definitely consider that to be a novel experience.

Re: Japanese Can Soon Pay Their Utility Bills with Bitcoin

#28
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Japanese culture is so hard to predict when it comes to tech uptake - you see an 80-year old man play with his Nintendo DS at the bus stop, Kyoto City is covered by free Wifi, Internet is fast and cheap, but the ATM closes down at 6pm and your hotel room advertises free fax (which you may actually end up needing)

Atm does not close anymore at 6pm. You are 10 years behind.

Do they still charge a modest (150 yen'ish) fee after hours? ;)

Re: Japanese Can Soon Pay Their Utility Bills with Bitcoin

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> Some people are attracted to using Bitcoin as a day to day currency and payments system, to reduce their dependence on mainstream banking. The "be your own bank" philosophy. Japan is, at least to my understanding, one of the last countries to develop such a mindset in the mainstream.

So the originators name Satoshi Nakamoto hasn't inspired more bitcoin adoption in Japan than elsewhere?

Nope. Even if there's adoption due to a possible central bank induced currency collapse, it'll be a small small minority for some time.

Re: Japanese Can Soon Pay Their Utility Bills with Bitcoin

#30
I keep hearing about Bitcoin being used to pay for commodities, but will this actually ever scale? With a maximum transaction rate of ~3.5 transactions per second, won't any practical application of Bitcoin for the masses eventually have to be implemented by a bunch of trusted third parties operating off the blockchain and bundling transactions? At that point, we seem to be back to using credit card companies who just happen to use the blockchain for clearing transactions with each other.
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