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Amazon Fined for Shipping Lithium Batteries on Passenger Planes

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Re: Amazon Fined for Shipping Lithium Batteries on Passenger Planes

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If Amazon pays a shipper to deliver product to its customers (or move them between warehouses) isn't it the shipper's responsibility to make sure they're shipped via an approved (legal) method? I guess Amazon would be responsible for disclosing the contents but this articles tells us almost nothing.

Re: Amazon Fined for Shipping Lithium Batteries on Passenger Planes

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If Amazon pays a shipper to deliver product to its customers (or move them between warehouses) isn't it the shipper's responsibility to make sure they're shipped via an approved (legal) method? I guess Amazon would be responsible for disclosing the contents but this articles tells us almost nothing.

IATA lithium-ion battery shipping rules make it pretty clear that packages containing Li-on batteries have to be clearly identified using warning labels. There are also limits to number of battery packs and Ah capacities in packages. If you've ordered anything with a Li-on battery in the last couple of years that was shipped by air, it should have had a warning label on it that looks like https://uline-h.assetsadobe.com/is/image/content/dam/images/...

That is the responsibility of the packer.

edit: just noticed that the article mentioned lithium batteries rather than li-on batteries, but the rules are similar. See http://www.iata.org/whatwedo/cargo/dgr/Documents/lithium-bat... for more info.

Re: Amazon Fined for Shipping Lithium Batteries on Passenger Planes

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post #2

If Amazon pays a shipper to deliver product to its customers (or move them between warehouses) isn't it the shipper's responsibility to make sure they're shipped via an approved (legal) method? I guess Amazon would be responsible for disclosing the contents but this articles tells us almost nothing.

IATA lithium-ion battery shipping rules make it pretty clear that packages containing Li-on batteries have to be clearly identified using warning labels. There are also limits to number of battery packs and Ah capacities in packages. If you've ordered anything with a Li-on battery in the last couple of years that was shipped by air, it should have had a warning label on it that looks like https://uline-h.assetsadobe.…

Why doesn't my iPhone 7 box have this sticker? It flew via UPS, does that make any difference? If I recall correctly a UPS flight crashed due to a battery fire a few years ago.

Re: Amazon Fined for Shipping Lithium Batteries on Passenger Planes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

IATA lithium-ion battery shipping rules make it pretty clear that packages containing Li-on batteries have to be clearly identified using warning labels. There are also limits to number of battery packs and Ah capacities in packages. If you've ordered anything with a Li-on battery in the last couple of years that was shipped by air, it should have had a warning label on it that looks like https://uline-h.assetsadobe.…

Why doesn't my iPhone 7 box have this sticker? It flew via UPS, does that make any difference? If I recall correctly a UPS flight crashed due to a battery fire a few years ago.

Only "raw" batteries are restricted. Once they're inside a finished electronic product, they're often fine. (Go figure.)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

IATA lithium-ion battery shipping rules make it pretty clear that packages containing Li-on batteries have to be clearly identified using warning labels. There are also limits to number of battery packs and Ah capacities in packages. If you've ordered anything with a Li-on battery in the last couple of years that was shipped by air, it should have had a warning label on it that looks like https://uline-h.assetsadobe.…

Why doesn't my iPhone 7 box have this sticker? It flew via UPS, does that make any difference? If I recall correctly a UPS flight crashed due to a battery fire a few years ago.

Different restrictions between passenger and freight aircraft. The freight rules are looser.

Re: Amazon Fined for Shipping Lithium Batteries on Passenger Planes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

IATA lithium-ion battery shipping rules make it pretty clear that packages containing Li-on batteries have to be clearly identified using warning labels. There are also limits to number of battery packs and Ah capacities in packages. If you've ordered anything with a Li-on battery in the last couple of years that was shipped by air, it should have had a warning label on it that looks like https://uline-h.assetsadobe.…

Why doesn't my iPhone 7 box have this sticker? It flew via UPS, does that make any difference? If I recall correctly a UPS flight crashed due to a battery fire a few years ago.

You have to read the rules very carefully. Your iPhone counts as a single cell in a package; multiple iPhones are only ever shipped in an "overpack".

Re: Amazon Fined for Shipping Lithium Batteries on Passenger Planes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why doesn't my iPhone 7 box have this sticker? It flew via UPS, does that make any difference? If I recall correctly a UPS flight crashed due to a battery fire a few years ago.

Only "raw" batteries are restricted. Once they're inside a finished electronic product, they're often fine. (Go figure.)

This is not quite right, but once a 'small' single cell is in a 'package', shipping it with other similar products is only subject to the 'overpack' rules.

Re: Amazon Fined for Shipping Lithium Batteries on Passenger Planes

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post #2

If Amazon pays a shipper to deliver product to its customers (or move them between warehouses) isn't it the shipper's responsibility to make sure they're shipped via an approved (legal) method? I guess Amazon would be responsible for disclosing the contents but this articles tells us almost nothing.

I assume Amazon operates like most retailers in that they would be buying a certain type of shipping service. Often dangerous goods shipping is at a different rate.

I would guess that most likely there were just products in their system that were missing a flag for dangerous goods.

Re: Amazon Fined for Shipping Lithium Batteries on Passenger Planes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only "raw" batteries are restricted. Once they're inside a finished electronic product, they're often fine. (Go figure.)

This is not quite right, but once a 'small' single cell is in a 'package', shipping it with other similar products is only subject to the 'overpack' rules.

Some companies still prefer to err on the side of caution, every single device I have ever ordered from T-Mobile has had the lithium sticker on the shipping box even though as far as I'm aware it's not required (especially in devices with non-removable batteries).
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