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UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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Post by kawera »

angry_octet wrote: post #117
tonyplee wrote: post #90

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Good work! BTW, how easy is it to add FF + noscript type of features to chrome? --- Only enable JS on whitelist websites - all others are default disable unless user explicitly temporary or permanently enable it.

It is in the settings for Chrome. Settings->Advanced->Privacy->Content: Cookies->Keep until quit + exceptions you choose. Javascript->Deny all + exceptions you choose. When you browse there is a little icon in the address bar to whitelist a site. It is a bit of a pain at first but it makes things a lot safer. When you go incognito it will forget which sites you whitelisted at session end, so you are not enabling a si…

Quickly enable/disable Chrome's javascript settings:

https://github.com/maximelebreton/quick-javascript-switcher

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/quick-javascript-s...

Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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Post by gnarbarian »

hgf888 wrote: post #35
sunnyps wrote: post #24

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Why do you say that it's not easy to contribute to Chromium? Also the "last truly open-source" browser is hyperbolic given that Chromium is both open-source and is also developed in the open[1][2][3]. If anything over the past few years it has become more open-source as many components have been upstreamed (e.g. pdfium, android/ios stuff, etc.) [1] Chromium bug tracker: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/lis…

It doesn't matter if it's open source - it's an issue of trust. Firefox has never secretly downloaded binary blobs in the background which listen to my microphone without my permission or knowledge.[1] Chromium lost all my trust that day, even if none of my private conversations/data made it to Google that particular time. [1] https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=500922

They fired a founder for retroactive wrongthink (post ex facto). That's pretty disturbing. Hard to trust someone like that.

Meanwhile, Google doesn't return results for guns in the shopping section. So I get to search a bunch of sites and call people like i'm on astalavista in 1998.

Sad Truth: both companies inject a brand of exclusionary (read: discriminatory) politics into their products. I don't trust either.

Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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Post by RodericDay »

ux-app wrote: post #120
callahad wrote: post #67

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If you can isolate that DOM performance bottleneck or point me to a live example, I'm happy to pare it down to a minimal test case and make sure it gets fixed. (We have some enormous architectural changes inbound which should help, but I'd still love to make sure we have a test to prevent regressing)

unfortunately for Firefox, performance issues are a case of death by a thousand cuts. Here's a product that I'm working on https://www.ux-app.com/dev/editor?m=trial In Chrome it's buttery smooth on any decent computer made in the past 5 or 6 years. In Firefox it's usable on a powerful computer, but notably worse than Chrome. On an under powered laptop Chrome is still very usable, not quite 60fps, but probably 30-40fp…

So long as my web browser is competitive when web browsing I'm happy.

Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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Post by RubyPinch »

phantom_oracle wrote: post #94

Just as a post about Googles next generic Whatsapp-clone (with x-size-larger emojis) will get some 500+ upvotes, so too will a post like this get upwards of 200 votes. The HN community really is polarized ( or so it seems ) about these data-harvesting companies and issues like privacy/transparency. My thought then, is which group is larger here (privacy-aware vs. GooAppFace )

well there was a privacy bait-and-switch with Allo, wasn't there?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12547130

Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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Post by striking »

cyphar wrote: post #118
striking wrote: post #40

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It's not extreme at all. All you have to do is install a distro with a good packaging system. Arch is wonderful, and I've heard good things about Void and Gentoo. Imagine a package system where you could ask to download node.js, and you'll get the latest version. And that's it. Better yet, imagine having to build a package from source and installing it. You could do it by hand, leaving orphan files all over your syst…

> It's not extreme at all. All you have to do is install a distro with a good packaging system. Arch is wonderful, and I've heard good things about Void and Gentoo. Depends what you classify as criteria for a "good packaging system". Arch didn't even sign their packages until a few years ago, and the build system for their packages is not very good IMO. What makes Arch great is the fact that they have a large library…

Right. I'm not advocating for one particular distro. I'm just advocating that people stop using distros with bad package management.

Thanks for the list of other stuff to check out, by the way.

Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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Post by sunnyps »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #53
sunnyps wrote: post #24

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Why do you say that it's not easy to contribute to Chromium? Also the "last truly open-source" browser is hyperbolic given that Chromium is both open-source and is also developed in the open[1][2][3]. If anything over the past few years it has become more open-source as many components have been upstreamed (e.g. pdfium, android/ios stuff, etc.) [1] Chromium bug tracker: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/lis…

I think there also needs to be a highlighted difference between an open source product, and an open source repository which is NOT the product which is distributed. Chromium is open source, but the supported product where the developer cares about the quality of the experience is Chrome. Android is much the same, where the platform almost all apps and services target requires Google Play. I can't expect Google to pro…

Both sync[1] and cast[2] are present in Chromium. If you're referring to the recent fiasco about cast not working in Chromium, that was a bug in M54. And guess what, it wasn't working in Chrome either!

I'd encourage you to read this document[3] detailing the differences between Chrome and Chromium instead of speculating.

[1] https://www.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/sync [2] https://codereview.chromium.org/2347503002 [3] https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs...

Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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Post by Larrikin »

Pharylon wrote: post #111
NeutronBoy wrote: post #4

While I applaud the effort that's gone into this, I urge people to consider (and use and contribute to!) Firefox. It's one of the last truly open-source browsers - both in terms of source code visibility (which Chrome(ium) has), and in terms of being able to contribute (which Chrome(ium) has not).

I just wish Firefox for Android played nice with other apps. I mean, I like that it has AdBlock, but no, Firefox, I don't want to open that YouTube link in Firefox.

Firefox includes the android app button in the URL bar for easily switching from Firefox.

Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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Post by Frondo »

gnarbarian wrote: post #122
hgf888 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't matter if it's open source - it's an issue of trust. Firefox has never secretly downloaded binary blobs in the background which listen to my microphone without my permission or knowledge.[1] Chromium lost all my trust that day, even if none of my private conversations/data made it to Google that particular time. [1] https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=500922

They fired a founder for retroactive wrongthink (post ex facto). That's pretty disturbing. Hard to trust someone like that. Meanwhile, Google doesn't return results for guns in the shopping section. So I get to search a bunch of sites and call people like i'm on astalavista in 1998. Sad Truth: both companies inject a brand of exclusionary (read: discriminatory) politics into their products. I don't trust either.

Eich resigned because his political views made it difficult for him to continue doing his job.

He wasn't imprisoned, nothing was done to him with the force of law. He just had/has unpopular views and accepted the consequences of holding those views.

I struggle to see how the world could be arranged such that we could all hold forth with controversial views, but such that there was never a consequence to holding those views. What would that world look like?

Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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Post by mrb »

fowlerpower wrote: post #100
sverige wrote: post #76

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> In general I think people ought to look at Google much more skeptically than they used to and all of the technologies that they push for. They all in some way push their agenda forward. I've been skeptical of Google for a long time, and quit using them as much as possible since they rolled out "Don't be evil." Talk about telegraphing the punch.

It's funny how corporate marketing works. For a long time I used to really love their products and their processes. Maybe it was when they got rid of "don't be evil" but at some point they started turning into just another corporation. A corporation with a ton of resources and a ton of people's information. Anyway I don't want to go into a rant but lately everything they do even the open source stuff is just to furth…

"Don't be evil" was and still is in the Google code of conduct. Source: https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct.html

Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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Post by gnarbarian »

Frondo wrote: post #128
gnarbarian wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They fired a founder for retroactive wrongthink (post ex facto). That's pretty disturbing. Hard to trust someone like that. Meanwhile, Google doesn't return results for guns in the shopping section. So I get to search a bunch of sites and call people like i'm on astalavista in 1998. Sad Truth: both companies inject a brand of exclusionary (read: discriminatory) politics into their products. I don't trust either.

Eich resigned because his political views made it difficult for him to continue doing his job. He wasn't imprisoned, nothing was done to him with the force of law. He just had/has unpopular views and accepted the consequences of holding those views. I struggle to see how the world could be arranged such that we could all hold forth with controversial views, but such that there was never a consequence to holding those…

>I struggle to see how the world could be arranged such that we could all hold forth with controversial views, but such that there was never a consequence to holding those views. What would that world look like?

It's called not talking politics or religion at work. Or not discriminating against someone because of something unrelated to their job. There is zero conflict of interest between Eich supporting prop 8 and heading the Mozilla foundation. Same as there is zero conflict of interest for Palmer Luckey supporting the leading candidate in the presidential election.

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