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UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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Post by ams6110 »

echelon wrote: post #82

Is there a decent alternative to Chrome on Android? I am absolutely, nauseatingly sick of ads on mobile. Almost every news website I visit fills the browser with full screen ads that are infuriatingly difficult to close, change the scrolling behavior and viewport in an entirely unusable way, or try to launch Google Play Store links in the background. It's so annoying, and definitely to the point of being one of my to…

I use Firefox on Android, with uBlock Origin plugin.

It's not perfect. There are deviations from the usual "Material Design" UI standards. Some sites don't render properly. It's slower. But it's worth it to me.

Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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Post by armitron »

om2 wrote: post #83
armitron wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately for everyone that cares about security, using Firefox (or Safari or old IE) is a colossal mistake since it's orders of magnitude easier to exploit (with almost no serious anti-exploitation mitigations) than Chrome. Spidermonkey in particular (Firefox's Javascript engine) is laughably bad when it comes to vulnerabilities. This is also the reason why the Servo browser that some folks think will be a lot m…

Firefox is much less secure than other modern browsers. And Chrome is indeed very secure. But I think it's incorrect to say that it's "orders of magnitude" more secure than Safari. This hasn't been true since Safari introduced multiprocess and sandboxing. Safari and Edge are closer to Chrome in security level than they are to Firefox. That's why pwn2own doesn't even include Firefox in the competition any more but doe…

Agreed on Safari/Edge but note that I didn't use the words "very secure" to describe Chrome in isolation.

How can something that gets publicly exploited year after year by _teenagers_ (1)(2) be called "very secure" ?

The grim reality is that we never had a browser than can be called even remotely secure. Major factors for that are the implementation languages (C++ and C) and the vast attack surface. It's disheartening to see this trend continue.

(1) http://www.tomsguide.com/us/pwn2own-browsers-2015,news-20680...

(2) http://blog.trendmicro.com/pwn2own-day-2-event-wrap/

Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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Post by AgentME »

technion wrote: post #9
nathancahill wrote: post #5

Great start. Although I think we need to reverse the trend of Chrome becoming the single browser web developers use. The amount of sites that unnecessarily[0] work only in Chrome is growing daily. And that's not even counting browser extensions. I think this, more than anything else, will determine if Chrome becomes the "Internet Explorer"[1] of this decade or not. Skipping testing in IE is one thing. Skipping testin…

The thing about "Internet Explorer", is that using IE Edge, I often run into websites that demand I "Upgrade" to Chrome and won't let me use them. Fudging the user agent however, allows that website to work perfectly fine. Not testing in IE is one thing. Presenting an nonintrusive message warning you don't test in IE is another. Paying money to advertise your website, then, when I click your link, greeting me with a…

For a few months now, Bank of America's site has been including a giant alert at the top suggesting that I use a supported browser, such as Firefox, Chrome, or IE. ... Except I'm already using Firefox. I'm not customizing the user agent or anything.

Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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Post by phantom_oracle »

Just as a post about Googles next generic Whatsapp-clone (with x-size-larger emojis) will get some 500+ upvotes, so too will a post like this get upwards of 200 votes.

The HN community really is polarized ( or so it seems ) about these data-harvesting companies and issues like privacy/transparency.

My thought then, is which group is larger here (privacy-aware vs. GooAppFace )

Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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Post by bzbarsky »

lossolo wrote: post #21
nathancahill wrote: post #5

Great start. Although I think we need to reverse the trend of Chrome becoming the single browser web developers use. The amount of sites that unnecessarily[0] work only in Chrome is growing daily. And that's not even counting browser extensions. I think this, more than anything else, will determine if Chrome becomes the "Internet Explorer"[1] of this decade or not. Skipping testing in IE is one thing. Skipping testin…

> simply include CSS prefixes besides -webkit and use standardized JS APIs. You mean like when I spent 30 minutes figuring out that text area in chrome is counting new line as 1 letter and firefox is counting it as two ?

You mean the other way around, right? At least for purposes of maxlength....

They should both count it as one now, for what it's worth.

Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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Post by [deleted] »

bilbobeer wrote: post #74

Well there are two evils here, and we're be asked to choose which devil. I'm not even certain what solution there is? On the subject of Chrome, the answer is simple, never let a google product enter your home, device, or car. Never. Like Putin says "Google is NSA". On the subject of Firefox, it pisses me off, while on windows I can turn off 'updates', on say linux they have taken the option off the menu. I hate the u…

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Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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Post by [deleted] »

NeutronBoy wrote: post #4

While I applaud the effort that's gone into this, I urge people to consider (and use and contribute to!) Firefox. It's one of the last truly open-source browsers - both in terms of source code visibility (which Chrome(ium) has), and in terms of being able to contribute (which Chrome(ium) has not).

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Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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Post by alanz1223 »

eloston wrote: post #66

Hey guys, I'm the developer. I was really surprised to see the number of stars on GitHub suddenly skyrocket, and I think I found why. Thank you all for your interest in my project! Feel free to make an issue (for questions, suggestions, or bug reports) or a pull request anytime. I might respond to a few more comments here before calling it a day.

I would like to ask you some questions about the project, what is the best method to contact you?

Re: UnGoogled Chromium: Chromium with enhanced privacy, control and transparency

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Post by fowlerpower »

sverige wrote: post #76
fowlerpower wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I second this opinion. I think Chrome has a lot of interesting parts from a technological perspective. However, I think Firefox as an organization has done more for JavaScript and that community as far as fostering an open environment than any other browser maker. So providing a good browser plus fostering and growing the development community are both great things. Another advantage is that it is not tied to some la…

> In general I think people ought to look at Google much more skeptically than they used to and all of the technologies that they push for. They all in some way push their agenda forward. I've been skeptical of Google for a long time, and quit using them as much as possible since they rolled out "Don't be evil." Talk about telegraphing the punch.

It's funny how corporate marketing works. For a long time I used to really love their products and their processes. Maybe it was when they got rid of "don't be evil" but at some point they started turning into just another corporation.

A corporation with a ton of resources and a ton of people's information. Anyway I don't want to go into a rant but lately everything they do even the open source stuff is just to further their agenda and seldom to help the community.

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