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My job posting would be similar but would add "Bonus points if you are musician who takes jam breaks in between coding." Which I do myself often. Instead of just having Rock Band the game I'd have full on band equipment. Working towards this type of environment!

Me too! And I do! I frequently work at my band's practice space. :)

Are you in SF?

Re: Now this is a job posting

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Notice there are only three requirements, none of them language-specific. Even these can be thought of as only two different demands, since learning languages quickly and being a really smart engineer are nearly the same thing. This means that, probabilistically, there's a reasonable chance they'll get a lot of applicants that actually meet all the requirements and from there they can hire someone they like based on…

/learning languages quickly and being a really smart engineer are nearly the same thing/

Only if we're thinking of formally specified computing languages. Since it's a world travel business that demands just a few lines later that you travel around the world as part of your job responsibilities, I read the requirement as refering* to natural languages.

I think an ad like this could work for a small, high profile startup like this but it should really take a line to say, "we mostly write all this in [RoR|Arc|Django|Objective-C] and need to keep [Oracle|Psotgres|MySQL] back ends tuned." That way we'd have some clue what to expect.

* Look, I'm qualified to write web standards.

Re: Now this is a job posting

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As a basic "get everything right and nothing wrong", yep, it's a very good job posting. Presumably interested applicants will be able to e.g. look at their site and figure out whether they want to work for the company (i.e. it doesn't sell the company, although it does sell the quality of engineering hiring, which is even more rare than quality engineering management!). It's also good in that it has one firm and semi…

It's nicely formatted, and it wasn't written by a retarded monkey, which is always good, but I really don't see how it rises above 'minimally acceptable' - it's all worded in vague HR speak, which is expected, but prevents it from being 'very good' in my opinion.

Re: Now this is a job posting

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Awesome job posting, would like to see some kind of salary range listed though -- but I guess that depends on what you can bring to the table.

I still like a range. I mean, fairly recently someone asked me for a recommendation... I did some legwork and found that one of the best people I know was looking around at the time. I made the recommendation, and kindof embarrassed myself. turns out, the guy wanted "a quick learner" (meaning someone cheap with little experience)

I mean, I think hiring people without experience is great; how else are they going to get experience? but if you are looking to pay $25/hr, don't waste the time of people who expect $200/hr. (and visa-versa.)

Re: Now this is a job posting

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think he was asking about the smart part, but the engineer part.

Canada makes that easy. Here you can only call yourself an engineer if you're actually an engineer because it's a protected term. (Like doctor.) We don't have the ridiculousness of sanitation engineer and the like so if the job posting includes engineer in the title you can easily assume they expect a degree and a licence with a proper Canadian accreditation board. And in case you were wondering, software engineering…

That might be the case in the US as well (but it may not be enforced). For instance, the term "software architect" is technically illegal, but nobody actually enforces it if it's in the context of software.

Re: Now this is a job posting

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I don't get why this is seen as a good job posting. There's very little info about the job, the compensation and only minimal info about the skills needed. When I was, say, 20, the blank slate might have been appealing. Now I'm actually good at stuff. I have deep specific skills and sorts of problems I like working on. Working in a job where I'm not using a significant subset of those skills is a poor use of my abili…

This sounds a lot like a perceiving vs judging issue. Judgers tend to like knowing what they're getting into ahead of time. Perceivers (such as myself) tend to get bored when their future is mapped out.

This posting definitely leans more toward the perceiving end of the spectrum. That isn't necessarily bad or good, but it definitely makes this posting different.

Re: Now this is a job posting

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"User of AirBnB" This should be a requirement rather than a bonus. I can't tell you just how helpful it is to hire people who are customers/users of your service. They obviously believe in what you are doing because they use the service and have given the ultimate vote - opening their wallet. Here's an old blog post where I talked about that with our company http://www.cattlemanagement.com/customer-service-hiring-phi…

Personally, I think 'believing in the product' is overrated. If you emphasize that too much, you end up with a bunch of yes men who can't see (or at least won't mention) problems with your product. Overconfidence is dangerous. The ability to be critical of yourself and your company is essential to avoiding death, I think.

That said, there is no way I'd hire a customer service person who wasn't a customer first. (but then, I sell a product that is of interest to technical people, and I target the low end, so really, #prgmr on irc.freenode.net is probably a fairly decent place to pick up cheap SysAdmins.) If I sold to, say, real-estate agents, I might feel differently. Also, if I was looking for an MBA, my customer pool would probably not be a very useful place to fish.

Really, people I know, and people who know people I know have been a more useful resource than anything else. (I don't mean people on my "social network" in the sense of facebook, but, for example, I met the co-author of my book because he was the roommate of one of my employees.)

Re: Now this is a job posting

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Funny timing. This Friday I talked to the HR person at work and told her I want to hire an IT person - someone to help me manage all the servers, users etc. Based on what I said, she did some research and made a draft job posting. It was a smörgåsbord of every technology I'd heard of in the past 10 years. I edited out a bunch of it but frankly, all I wanted it to say was "1. Must be able to learn anything when needed…

For sysadmin postings, I like to see at least a blurb of "technologies we use," since it allows me to avoid, for example, Microsoft shops.

Can you be specific in why you don't like Microsoft shops?

A few years a go, I worked at a web design agency that used a ton of MS products. They produced some really top-notch work for their clients, and shipped it all on the MS stack. The impression I got was that they wanted to focus on the product and not spend time fixing ActiveRecord bugs, etc.

Are there really no good MS hackers out there? Is it a cultural thing?

Re: Now this is a job posting

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My job posting would be similar but would add "Bonus points if you are musician who takes jam breaks in between coding." Which I do myself often. Instead of just having Rock Band the game I'd have full on band equipment. Working towards this type of environment!

So you're trying to be a Rock Star coder.

Re: Now this is a job posting

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For sysadmin postings, I like to see at least a blurb of "technologies we use," since it allows me to avoid, for example, Microsoft shops.

Can you be specific in why you don't like Microsoft shops? A few years a go, I worked at a web design agency that used a ton of MS products. They produced some really top-notch work for their clients, and shipped it all on the MS stack. The impression I got was that they wanted to focus on the product and not spend time fixing ActiveRecord bugs, etc. Are there really no good MS hackers out there? Is it a cultural thi…

To me, MS is practically a separate universe from everything else. That's not to say that there aren't any significant differences between the nixes, but they are at least similar in terms of the big picture. It would seem that learning to administer a Windows system would require a lot of unnecessary retraining for a nix admin. And I'm pretty sure that's doubly true of the opposite.
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