Talking to C Programmers about C++ [video]
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Re: Talking to C Programmers about C++ [video]
#2faggot
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#3I'm still watching but it took an interesting turn at the 30 min mark :)
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#4C++ is really hard. I have learned enough about it to understand that there's a lot of idiomatic ways of achieving things that I do not understand, especially with the latest standards.
When someone claims to know C++, especially in a recruitment context, I tend to challenge that, since it's really hard to actually believe these days. Some people claim to know C++, but basically just write everything as if it was C.
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#5Scott Adams (Dilbert) has been writing extensively on persuasion for the last year or so, covering many of the same points Dan does. He has put together a reading list: http://blog.dilbert.com/post/129784168866/the-persuasion-rea...
Re: Talking to C Programmers about C++ [video]
#6C++ is really hard. I have learned enough about it to understand that there's a lot of idiomatic ways of achieving things that I do not understand, especially with the latest standards. When someone claims to know C++, especially in a recruitment context, I tend to challenge that, since it's really hard to actually believe these days. Some people claim to know C++, but basically just write everything as if it was C.
C++ is not one language... there are many styles, for example:
- 'C with objects'.
- 'Everything is a template'.
- 'Embedded C++' (its a real standard, google it).
- functional.
- 'modern'.
(thats not a complete list either).
Each one of those is technically the same language, but they're all using a different subset of features and are almost unrecognisable from the rest.
Re: Talking to C Programmers about C++ [video]
#7C++ is really hard. I have learned enough about it to understand that there's a lot of idiomatic ways of achieving things that I do not understand, especially with the latest standards. When someone claims to know C++, especially in a recruitment context, I tend to challenge that, since it's really hard to actually believe these days. Some people claim to know C++, but basically just write everything as if it was C.
C++ is not one language... there are many styles, for example: - 'C with objects'. - 'Everything is a template'. - 'Embedded C++' (its a real standard, google it). - functional. - 'modern'. (thats not a complete list either). Each one of those is technically the same language, but they're all using a different subset of features and are almost unrecognisable from the rest.
It is one language. Many of those subsets are not mutually exclusive.
Regardless of what your preference is, if you claim to know C++ you need to at least know some of its basic features, such as references, streams, templates, STL, etc. (features that have been around for a long time).
And if you claim expertise, to at least be familiar with basic features from the new standards.
Re: Talking to C Programmers about C++ [video]
#8C++ is really hard. I have learned enough about it to understand that there's a lot of idiomatic ways of achieving things that I do not understand, especially with the latest standards. When someone claims to know C++, especially in a recruitment context, I tend to challenge that, since it's really hard to actually believe these days. Some people claim to know C++, but basically just write everything as if it was C.
C++ is not one language... there are many styles, for example: - 'C with objects'. - 'Everything is a template'. - 'Embedded C++' (its a real standard, google it). - functional. - 'modern'. (thats not a complete list either). Each one of those is technically the same language, but they're all using a different subset of features and are almost unrecognisable from the rest.
z-value-refs! Don't forget z-value-refs!
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
C++ is not one language... there are many styles, for example: - 'C with objects'. - 'Everything is a template'. - 'Embedded C++' (its a real standard, google it). - functional. - 'modern'. (thats not a complete list either). Each one of those is technically the same language, but they're all using a different subset of features and are almost unrecognisable from the rest.
It is one language. Many of those subsets are not mutually exclusive. Regardless of what your preference is, if you claim to know C++ you need to at least know some of its basic features, such as references, streams, templates, STL, etc. (features that have been around for a long time). And if you claim expertise, to at least be familiar with basic features from the new standards.
true, they're all overlapping subsets....
The point being that the way you structure your software in each of those styles is very, very different.
They're all idiomatic C++.... just different idioms.
In fact, thinking about it, thats what it is...
C++ is a multi-idiom language.
Re: Talking to C Programmers about C++ [video]
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
C++ is not one language... there are many styles, for example: - 'C with objects'. - 'Everything is a template'. - 'Embedded C++' (its a real standard, google it). - functional. - 'modern'. (thats not a complete list either). Each one of those is technically the same language, but they're all using a different subset of features and are almost unrecognisable from the rest.
It is one language. Many of those subsets are not mutually exclusive. Regardless of what your preference is, if you claim to know C++ you need to at least know some of its basic features, such as references, streams, templates, STL, etc. (features that have been around for a long time). And if you claim expertise, to at least be familiar with basic features from the new standards.
If you claim expertise you have to be more than familiar with the basic features. Thats not expertise.