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Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles

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Re: Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles

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Are you seriously comparing a pair of shitty-looking sunglasses to the iPhone? These are sunglasses that take a ten second video that is tied to Snapchat. They cost 130 bucks and immediately signal that you are a techie douchebag because that's what people still associate video-taking glasses with. It is literally a novelty toy that is using a WSJ article (native content advertising) to make it seem like a revolution…

The article says over and over again it's a toy. Young people, 14-25 are going to buy these and make them cool. Not the 35 year old engineers who bought Google Glass. Google has never made something cool. Snapchat was cool out of the gate.

The article also includes fluff about how the glasses captured the experience hiking like no other and assorted hype.

>Young people, 14-25 are going to buy these and make them cool.

No, they are not. These are going to come to nothing, maybe some more fluff pieces. If I'm wrong, be sure to leave a comment here in the future.

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> Don't underestimate the power of social signaling. You mean the social signaling that is going to brand these users as "glassholes" as well? >At $129 this is a no-brainer. Please step out of your tech bubble. Most snapchat users are teenagers or college-age persons who absolutely do not have $129 to drop on a pair of novelty sunglasses.

Cheaper than a pair of raybans, which are fairly ubiquitous. If they are successful, the price will drop too. If the hardware is minimal, and people like the design, why not buy these instead of whatever other sunglasses they were going to buy and get a fun toy as well?

Raybans actually look nice and maintain their value. These look like they were designed by a committee that googled "cool millennial"

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> Don't underestimate the power of social signaling. You mean the social signaling that is going to brand these users as "glassholes" as well? >At $129 this is a no-brainer. Please step out of your tech bubble. Most snapchat users are teenagers or college-age persons who absolutely do not have $129 to drop on a pair of novelty sunglasses.

Cheaper than a pair of raybans, which are fairly ubiquitous. If they are successful, the price will drop too. If the hardware is minimal, and people like the design, why not buy these instead of whatever other sunglasses they were going to buy and get a fun toy as well?

All the young 20 something year olds that I know are still not dropping $120 on sun glasses unless they are young college graduated professionals. Most are not. And I'm a 28 year old professional that wears $10 knock offs.

Re: Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles

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Looks like they have learned from the glasshole debacle. 1). The messaging emphasizes it's just "a toy", a low volume experiment. More playful and more humble approach makes it a smaller target for ridicule. 2.) Pricing at $149 also makes it less pretentious and more importantly, puts it in the discretionary income range of what the heck I'll give it a shot.

They literally took the feature of glass that people found creepy and made a product out of it.

Re: Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles

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Dead serious. "Cool" is all this product needs to be successful. People buy sunglasses. People like Snapchat. At $129 this is a no-brainer. Don't underestimate the power of social signaling.

I'm with you on the idea that "cool" and "lifestyle" sell, especially when they're backed by celebs. That said, Snapchat isn't a lifestyle product, it's an app. Moving from pocket to face is a monumental transition with monumental challenges, but certainly one worth trying. My money says the glasses never become mass adopted but maybe Snapchat - sorry, Snap - learns a few things along the way that set it up for succe…

And hardware product #2 could be an interface with even less friction.

Remember Memoto? — The lifelogging camera that clips on your shirt; it looks like they're called Narrative now [0].

If Snapchat owns the camera hardware they have total control over analytics. They could become the platform for sharing daily moments. At some point, that's what Facebook was, except there was always an app layer in-between.

[0]: http://getnarrative.com

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Hype and grumbles aside, I believe optimizing the "I want to record what I'm seeing right now" to a tap near your temple is pretty compelling. Fumbling to get my camera out of my pocket, or even just grab from tabletop and swipe-to-cam is often long enough to miss that precious moment with my daughter.

True, this removes a ton of useless and uber-annoying friction.

There will be a lot of friction associated with being filmed and recorded all the time, as will probably be the case not with this generation of tools but in maybe 5 years

Re: Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles

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Another huge innovation which is more about software than hardware is the new circular video format: you can rotate your phone and the video keeps its orientation. Quite impressive, you have to see it in action: https://twitter.com/ow/status/779592486461313025

A significant part of the recorded video in that demo is always off screen. If you fit it to the screen, it will be circular. This doesnt really seem to solve anything.

Re: Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles

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As part of the audience it's catered to, it absolutely looks ridiculous. The question is, is it useful/interesting/popular/trendy enough to warrant that ridiculousness? It'll depend on how they market it. My opinion is that Snapchat is pretty good already, so why would I need this? Hence my analysis is that it would be difficult for Snap to market this product effectively without cannibalizing their existing product,…

Does the typical snapchat user hang out on HN? When I think of snapchats core audience I think 18 year olds who are "super social" and care a lot about fashion and "new stuff". Not saying it can't overlap, but still.

Their audience still has tons of 20-somethings [0], and a lot of topics on HN are catered toward startups, which are (like it or not) biased toward 20- and 30-somethings.

[0]: http://www.recode.net/2015/3/26/11560724/heres-the-chart-tha...

Re: Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles

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I like it. Seriously, "creepy" is just a word that means "I can't accept the reality doesn't work the way I'd like it". That said, I worry about implementation. My guess is that it's going to be directly and permanently tied to Snapchat itself. Which significantly reduces the potential usefulness of this product - not everything you record is something you only want to have sent directly to Snapchat. Personally, I wa…

It's more exhausting than creepy. Being filmed all the time, anywhere and in HD.
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