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Re: Haiku Project

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Huge Hacker Comments about Haiku OS today But so few Haiku's BE/OS clone quiet power, elegance just simplicity Plan 9 and Minux all have their followers will Haiku get love More than a small toy Time will be the decider Windows look out now

> BE/OS clone

I'm skeptical of the syllable count on "BE", though!

Re: Haiku Project

#32

Huge Hacker Comments about Haiku OS today But so few Haiku's BE/OS clone quiet power, elegance just simplicity Plan 9 and Minux all have their followers will Haiku get love More than a small toy Time will be the decider Windows look out now

Haha. +1 for the effort (though my pedantic affectations force me to note it's `BeOS' rather than BE/OS).

Plan 9 had some brilliant ideas. In addition to the whole Acme editor being integrated into the OS at levels which beat out even Smalltalk, and the Plan 9 tags(1) [see: File indexing and searching for Plan 9] system was marvelous as well. I've been trying to come up with a semantic information modeling system better than the standard hierarchy, and better than just a tagging system. tags(1) and Lotus Agenda get(got?) pretty close.

Side-note: emacs org-mode users - I highly suggest experimenting with Agenda in DosBox for a few months. It's pretty much the paragon of PIM, so much so that I wrote a few thousand lines of elisp to replicate most of the functionality.

Re: Haiku Project

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post #31

Huge Hacker Comments about Haiku OS today But so few Haiku's BE/OS clone quiet power, elegance just simplicity Plan 9 and Minux all have their followers will Haiku get love More than a small toy Time will be the decider Windows look out now

> BE/OS clone I'm skeptical of the syllable count on "BE", though!

Depends on if you say B E O S or say BE slash O S -- it's artistic hedging ;-)

Re: Haiku Project

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Huge Hacker Comments about Haiku OS today But so few Haiku's BE/OS clone quiet power, elegance just simplicity Plan 9 and Minux all have their followers will Haiku get love More than a small toy Time will be the decider Windows look out now

Haha. +1 for the effort (though my pedantic affectations force me to note it's `BeOS' rather than BE/OS). Plan 9 had some brilliant ideas. In addition to the whole Acme editor being integrated into the OS at levels which beat out even Smalltalk, and the Plan 9 tags(1) [see: File indexing and searching for Plan 9] system was marvelous as well. I've been trying to come up with a semantic information modeling system bet…

So I'm an Emacs org-mode user, and I'm not seeing a good reason why I should spend the time getting Agenda going just to play around with it. It looks like a lot of resources on the web are geared toward "I used Agenda years ago and loved it, how do I do that again?" Which is great and all, but it's not really helping me understand why I should take you up on your suggestion. It might help to see those few thousand lines of Emacs Lisp, but it'd help even more to have a quick précis of why Agenda is great and what it does that org-mode doesn't. You seem to know such things. Will you share them?

Re: Haiku Project

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post #5

I used BeOS as a kid while playing with different operating systems. All of the windows were yellow colored, and you could irrevocably damage your system if you ever tried to change the color. Good times.

> All of the windows were yellow colored, and you could irrevocably damage your system if you ever tried to change the color.

...what? How does that work?

Re: Haiku Project

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Haiku predates Haiku Learning by several years. But fortunately trademarks don't generally work that way and lots of companies and products have, for example, the word "Windows" in their name.

From what I've seen, trademarks only limit name choices for direct competitors. That's why the existence of Apple (the music label started by the Beatles) didn't stop the name being used again by Jobs and Wozniak.

Not for want of trying, though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corps_v_Apple_Computer

Re: Haiku Project

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post #8

I always smile wistfully whenever Haiku/BeOS comes up... its performance and just sheer fun remains unmatched by Windows, OS X, Linux, etc (try it out in a VM). dr_dank summed it up best back in 2003 [0]: BeOS was demonstrated to me during my senior year of college. The guy giving the talk played upwards of two dozen mp3s, a dozen or so movie trailers, the GL teapot thing, etc. simultanously. None of the apps skipped…

Haiku is a clone not based on the original BeOS codebase. So while it may run the same apps and look similar, does it have the internal design and optimizations that made the original so capable for its time? Could Haiku running on equivalent hardware run that demo as well as BeOS?

Re: Haiku Project

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I've played with Haiku in a VM in the past. But what is suggested that I do with the OS? Be a daily driver? Does it fit some niche use case? I have an old netbook, I'd load Haiku on the boot partition, I really would. I'm a sucker for something different (given the evils of Big OS and all), and for the underdog. Hell, I might even contribute if I have something (coding wise) to give. So I load 'er up on the ol' boot…

> then why are the devs pouring time into it

The goal of Haiku is to revive BeOS in open-source so that it might never die again. It's simply a recreation of BeOS R5 with some modernness thrown in.

I think the developers are intelligent enough to be aware that their OS might not have a future of taking on Apple or Microsoft.

If you want a comparison, this is similar to how Linux came to be. Linus was frustrated at MINIX licensing, so he set out to make his own.

Re: Haiku Project

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10 years ago I believed this project had a great future. But instead focusing on a non-PC devices where it actually had a chance of success, they continue to trying to compete with other desktop OS.
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