There are better alternatives to Twitter out there. It’s time for everybody to move on.
I think Gab.ai is competitor, thats gaining popularity.
It has the same issue Voat does: the people I want to avoid went there.
Twitter may receive formal bid, suitors said to include Salesforce and Google
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#52Twitter should be a public utility.
Why?
The only thing twitter does better than basically anything is:
Has a giant userbase containing many influential Internet celebrities.
Except for that it is inferior in almost every single way, starting with the ridiculously low character limit, continuing with the spam everyone all the time etc the list goes on.
Hey, even google+ is better in several ways, except for the part about Internet celebrities.
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#53Re: Twitter may receive formal bid, suitors said to include Salesforce and Google
#54Google acquiring Twitter is actually the best end result here. Salesforce is probably the worst. Lots of people hate the idea of a Google acquisition, but I think it's well suited because: - Google learnt from its mistakes with Google+ and is eager to not repeat them - The company is a very different one now from years ago - Google doesn't want to mess up identity again, so that wouldn't be an issue - Google mostly j…
> Google learnt from its mistakes with Google+ and is eager to not repeat them
Google has learned nothing from their mistakes.
As evidence their real name policy is still active. Contrast with Twitter where a lot of users have fake names. And yes, you can find hateful users on Twitter and I know of some folks that have been harassed, but the community I'm active in is very professional and civilized and the conversations have a much higher quality than what I've seen on Google+ or YouTube, even with their real names. Guess some people are assholes no matter what.
Also the Google+ API is still read-only. Which means you can only use Google's official tools for posting content. There's no way for example to cross-post on both Twitter and Google+. Apps like TweetDeck aren't possible for Google+.
Oh and Google Reader is still dead.
> Google doesn't want to mess up identity again, so that wouldn't be an issue
I'm sure they don't want to mess it up, but given that they are continuously messing up identity, I'm also sure that it will be an issue.
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How is a company which "might never be profitable" considered a "significant asset"?!
Money isn't everything. YouTube is a hugely popular service, driving lots of data, traffic and brand image towards Google. Could be the same for Twitter.
I'm not sure if brand image is something YouTube gives Google. I honestly don't think the general public knows that YouTube is a part of Google. YouTube seems like its own separate thing to the casual user. It would be interesting to see a poll of the general public.
But the data. The data is key. They have rocked image recognition and video is a huge data source for their ML efforts.
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And Wave.
Wave was too ahead of its time. Bots in channels that could translate and issue arbitrary actions? In 2009? Nonsense.
I really liked Wave. It came out when I was in college and moving into an off-campus apartment with two other guys. We used it to coordinate who was bringing what (to not end up with 50 pots and three sets of chairs), and being able to have reply threads in the middle of a previous post was a great format for that sort of small group discussion.
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It has the same issue Voat does: the people I want to avoid went there.
Isn't that a good thing though ? More choices, more people will self segregate out.
The people I tend to agree with are just as prone to group think as conservative-leaning people. Hate grows in the absence of disagreement, and it doesn't stop at the echo chamber's walls.
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#58There are better alternatives to Twitter out there. It’s time for everybody to move on.
Such as?
Telegram channels
Re: Twitter may receive formal bid, suitors said to include Salesforce and Google
#59Google acquiring Twitter is actually the best end result here. Salesforce is probably the worst. Lots of people hate the idea of a Google acquisition, but I think it's well suited because: - Google learnt from its mistakes with Google+ and is eager to not repeat them - The company is a very different one now from years ago - Google doesn't want to mess up identity again, so that wouldn't be an issue - Google mostly j…
Given what they've done with YouTube in the last few years or so, it doesn't seem quite like they've learned from their mistakes. I'm already seeing jokes about YouTube 'advertiser friendly' guidelines and 'YouTube Heroes' as we speak.
Really, the one thing that keeps YouTube going is how expensive it is to compete with it. Twitter doesn't exactly have that luxury.
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That would be nice but who would pay for servers? I would love an "Open Twitter" built on standard protocols and implementable by anyone, however if SMTP and NNTP are any indication, most people prefer convenient silos over open solutions. And the reality of a hostile internet mean that there is a need for active resources devoted to protecting any service from abuse.
> most people prefer convenient silos over open solutions. Most people don't care one way or the other. They just want it to do what they want/need.
And they also want their friends to be on the service. That's what's really important, and why a lot of open solutions didn't take off. No one they cared about was using them.