Kreisel Electric takes on Tesla
bloomberg.com
Kreisel Electric takes on Tesla
1–10 of 121 posts
Re: Kreisel Electric takes on Tesla
#2I am a european and getting pissed off by these cocky austrians and germans. They are so full of themselves and keep trash talking about Tesla for so long. Yet they cannot deliver.
Tesla does. Period. Also it's not only about technical superiority but experience as well. Tesla excels here.
Re: Kreisel Electric takes on Tesla
#3I am a european and getting pissed off by these cocky austrians and germans. They are so full of themselves and keep trash talking about Tesla for so long. Yet they cannot deliver. Tesla does. Period. Also it's not only about technical superiority but experience as well. Tesla excels here.
I think that Europeans living in Europe really don't understand how startup work.
Re: Kreisel Electric takes on Tesla
#4> The Austrian company says its patented laser-welding and thermal-cooling techniques give them an edge over Tesla because the method preserves the full power of the lithium-ion cells.
This is what they say their advantage is against tesla. So be it, but I doubt it is revolutionnary.
More importantly, Kreiser, as far as the article explains, doesn't build entire cars. They sell drivetrains and battery packages. This is completely different, Tesla has a way bigger scope.
Re: Kreisel Electric takes on Tesla
#5I am a european and getting pissed off by these cocky austrians and germans. They are so full of themselves and keep trash talking about Tesla for so long. Yet they cannot deliver. Tesla does. Period. Also it's not only about technical superiority but experience as well. Tesla excels here.
[deleted]
Re: Kreisel Electric takes on Tesla
#6> The Austrian company says its patented laser-welding and thermal-cooling techniques give them an edge over Tesla because the method preserves the full power of the lithium-ion cells. This is what they say their advantage is against tesla. So be it, but I doubt it is revolutionnary. More importantly, Kreiser, as far as the article explains, doesn't build entire cars. They sell drivetrains and battery packages. This…
They don't have to build entire cars, because there are plenty of good car builders in Europe (which already seem to be their customers)
Tesla now has an edge on the technology front, but once the traditional European brands pick up, with technology that is better than Tesla (as assumed in the article), the question is if Tesla can keep it's market position. (This is in my opinion the main idea of the article)
I agree that the European brands came way too late into the game, and Tesla was clever enough to recognize this weak spot. But once Tesla starts building cheaper cars, will those who spend $70.000 on a car buy the "average" Tesla or a Mercedes, BMW or Porsche?
Don't get me wrong, I really admire Tesla for how much market share they were able to get in such a short period of time. Definitely well deserved and visionary! But it's indeed a question how this market will evolve further. This Austrian company might have an impact on it.
Re: Kreisel Electric takes on Tesla
#7> The Austrian company says its patented laser-welding and thermal-cooling techniques give them an edge over Tesla because the method preserves the full power of the lithium-ion cells. This is what they say their advantage is against tesla. So be it, but I doubt it is revolutionnary. More importantly, Kreiser, as far as the article explains, doesn't build entire cars. They sell drivetrains and battery packages. This…
> This is what they say their advantage is against tesla. So be it, but I doubt it is revolutionnary.
Another advantage that is unstated in the article is that this moves the choice of electric vehicles from specific models to optional trim levels: instead of having to choose between the BMW 3 series and the i3, one could choose between the 320, 320d or the 320e
Re: Kreisel Electric takes on Tesla
#8I am a european and getting pissed off by these cocky austrians and germans. They are so full of themselves and keep trash talking about Tesla for so long. Yet they cannot deliver. Tesla does. Period. Also it's not only about technical superiority but experience as well. Tesla excels here.
Audi, BMW, Volkswagen and Peugeot all sell electric or hybrid-electric cars.
Re: Kreisel Electric takes on Tesla
#9I am a european and getting pissed off by these cocky austrians and germans. They are so full of themselves and keep trash talking about Tesla for so long. Yet they cannot deliver. Tesla does. Period. Also it's not only about technical superiority but experience as well. Tesla excels here.
Completely agree (I'm also European). When Porsche unveiled the Mission E, they made spec comparisons to the Tesla Model S. But the Mission E is a concept, slated for 2020!
VW/Audi, Porsche, BMW and Mercedes need to take a long hard look at themselves. The market is changing way faster than they expected IMO.
Just sell a bloody 250 mile range car I can buy for £25k. That's it. It's not hard. Do it, now. Not in 3 years. Now.
Re: Kreisel Electric takes on Tesla
#10I am a european and getting pissed off by these cocky austrians and germans. They are so full of themselves and keep trash talking about Tesla for so long. Yet they cannot deliver. Tesla does. Period. Also it's not only about technical superiority but experience as well. Tesla excels here.
Audi, BMW, Volkswagen and Peugeot all sell electric or hybrid-electric cars.
And they are all either:
A: Hugely overpriced plug in hybrids
B: Have pathetic range