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Two Out of Three Young Millennials Now Use an Ad Blocker

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Re: Two Out of Three Young Millennials Now Use an Ad Blocker

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Everyone should install Millennials to Snake People. It's a great addon that makes the internet way better. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/millennials-to-sna...

Firefox version here: (you know, if you're not a hip snake-person who uses Chrome)

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/millennials-t...

Re: Two Out of Three Young Millennials Now Use an Ad Blocker

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post #137

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Clean install from scratch and mandatory automatic updates from the OS vendor.

Also, restricted privileges (Windows problem, mostly). You just don't need to be an administrator to browse the web, check your emails, play games, sort some photos or video chat. Remove this vector and save yourself a lot of pain.

Yep, agreed.

Re: Two Out of Three Young Millennials Now Use an Ad Blocker

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In what sense is it only valid for advanced users? And how is either claim (1. doesn't protect / 2. increased attack surface) debatable?

1. AV solutions do in fact offer a lot of protection. 2. You will reduce you attack surface a lot more by not installing Flash, Java, and using an ad-blocker than not using AV.

I don't agree with you on (1), so I think we need data.

(2) is creating an entirely different argument from blue sky. You're putting words in my mouth.

I support installing ad-blockers to reduce attack surface.

Removing Flash and Java is more nuanced. Most non-advanced users expect Flash sites to work and many non-advanced users need Java sites to work (e.g. enterprise internal crap). I think click-to-play is a decent mitigation here that non-advanced users can understand.

Maybe disabling Java is okay, so long as they really do not need it for anything. Disabling Flash is a harder sell.

Re: Two Out of Three Young Millennials Now Use an Ad Blocker

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I'd say this, but recently I cleaned a few family members of root kits. They had virus scanners, they just didn't pick them up. I'd love to know a decent one I can put on thats cheap/free that catches these fuckers. Would save me a ton of time lol.

Linux is the best virus scanner. I secretly install Linux onto family member's computers. It's been two years and nobody has noticed.

Linux has exploits in the wild, too. Automatic OS updates is the important part.

Re: Two Out of Three Young Millennials Now Use an Ad Blocker

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post #137

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Clean install from scratch and mandatory automatic updates from the OS vendor.

Also, restricted privileges (Windows problem, mostly). You just don't need to be an administrator to browse the web, check your emails, play games, sort some photos or video chat. Remove this vector and save yourself a lot of pain.

The best thing that could happen to Windows is a user-privilege level where instead of providing a UAC prompt to the user when a program tries to elevate, the UAC daemon instead sends off a push-notification. The "real sysadmin" (e.g. nephew) would then install some app on their phone, which will catch these notifications and prompt them to remotely approve/deny the elevation requests. Or maybe even just make it non-interactive: default deny unless they've given an explicit elevation authorization in the last 30 minutes. "Phone me when you want something installed and I'll enable it." Sort of like a remote version of wi-fi router WPS pairing.

(Obviously, you can also build this for corporations, where the notifications are emails and managers can approve software installations on workstations and such from their email client. But corporations already get the benefit of "managed app stores" for frontloading software approval; they need this much less than individuals do.)

Re: Two Out of Three Young Millennials Now Use an Ad Blocker

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Ad blocking is a textbook case of "prisoners' dilemma". And as someone that uses an ad blocker, I find the increasing popularity of ad blockers unnerving.

That's assuming losing the content creators serving ads would be a loss for internet users. Given that there exist people that hold this opinion, their own view about using an ad blocker is not at all in the same context than in the prisoners dilemma. Thus the dilemma is biased, to an extent directly proportional to the number of people holding this opinion. If it is biased, the standard game theory analysis does not…

> More prosaically, I do not care in the slightest if people living in selling ads disappeared completely from internet. They are a cancer, ads are a cancer to the utopia that internet was for a short time.

Excellent response, but on this particular point, I'd suggest you are being intellectually dishonest - or at least overly simplifying things. You use an ad blocker precisely because there is content you want to see. To claim that you don't care if the content you are trying to see disappears from the Internet is rather silly.

Re: Two Out of Three Young Millennials Now Use an Ad Blocker

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https://air.mozilla.org/subscribe2web/ It was actually $6.20/year at that time. I've been generous with the $10/yr. I also consider $20/year a win for consumption companies as that would mean we could outbid ads for our own eyes. It seems stupid to have to say that but you'd be surprised how little money an individual makes on their own.

Thanks. I definitely hear "nobody would want to actually pay for what their advertising value is actually worth" all the time. Personally, I'd happily pay more than $10 for the benefits.

Yep, I'm willing to concede this isn't fully accurate. But if we don't have numbers at all its not even a point worth arguing. If anyone has other numbers please post them.

Re: Two Out of Three Young Millennials Now Use an Ad Blocker

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post #167

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Also, restricted privileges (Windows problem, mostly). You just don't need to be an administrator to browse the web, check your emails, play games, sort some photos or video chat. Remove this vector and save yourself a lot of pain.

The best thing that could happen to Windows is a user-privilege level where instead of providing a UAC prompt to the user when a program tries to elevate, the UAC daemon instead sends off a push-notification. The "real sysadmin" (e.g. nephew) would then install some app on their phone, which will catch these notifications and prompt them to remotely approve/deny the elevation requests. Or maybe even just make it non-…

You know this right here, would save me many many head aches.
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