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Can payments persuade Canadian residents to move away from dying villages?

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Re: Can payments persuade Canadian residents to move away from dying villages?

#11
What, no Newfie jokes?

On a more serious note: there's a tectonic shift going on in the US too, it's just not as stark. Young'uns are moving to the cities enmasse, resulting in skyrocketing rents in places like SF, Seattle. The old American Dream of having a McMansion out in the 'burbs has largely died out. Now people prefer the urban areas.

Re: Can payments persuade Canadian residents to move away from dying villages?

#12
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I actually live in Toronto and I agree real estate here is expensive. What I don't get is WAY more expensive in places like London, Hong Kong, New York and San Francisco but I don't hear as many complaints or alarms going off in those areas. Why? Is this just me being oblivious?

It's because Toronto is in a state of transition. No one complains about NY, London, HK real-estate because it's already understood to be expensive in the mainstream. But Toronto real-estate being expensive is relatively new such that you have people who grew up in Toronto not being able to afford it in adulthood. People are slowly realizing that TO is now just another global city out of reach to the middle class unl…

It's so cold there, who needs a backyard? You can only use it 2 weeks a year, and you'd be better off sailing.

Re: Can payments persuade Canadian residents to move away from dying villages?

#13

What, no Newfie jokes? On a more serious note: there's a tectonic shift going on in the US too, it's just not as stark. Young'uns are moving to the cities enmasse, resulting in skyrocketing rents in places like SF, Seattle. The old American Dream of having a McMansion out in the 'burbs has largely died out. Now people prefer the urban areas.

> What, no Newfie jokes?

"How many Newfies does it take to screw in a light-bulb?"

"Don't screw in that light bulb - the power-grid can't take the extra load!"

Re: Can payments persuade Canadian residents to move away from dying villages?

#14
post #6

I actually live in Toronto and I agree real estate here is expensive. What I don't get is WAY more expensive in places like London, Hong Kong, New York and San Francisco but I don't hear as many complaints or alarms going off in those areas. Why? Is this just me being oblivious?

I hear a ton of complaints about SF. Maybe you hear more about Toronto because it's where you are?

Re: Can payments persuade Canadian residents to move away from dying villages?

#15

What, no Newfie jokes? On a more serious note: there's a tectonic shift going on in the US too, it's just not as stark. Young'uns are moving to the cities enmasse, resulting in skyrocketing rents in places like SF, Seattle. The old American Dream of having a McMansion out in the 'burbs has largely died out. Now people prefer the urban areas.

Every time I hear McMansion now I'm reminded of this recent submission: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12286724

Great read, but probably off-topic.

Re: Can payments persuade Canadian residents to move away from dying villages?

#16

What, no Newfie jokes? On a more serious note: there's a tectonic shift going on in the US too, it's just not as stark. Young'uns are moving to the cities enmasse, resulting in skyrocketing rents in places like SF, Seattle. The old American Dream of having a McMansion out in the 'burbs has largely died out. Now people prefer the urban areas.

> Now people prefer the urban areas.

That's not new. What also isn't new is that when those same people get married and have kids, they'll be looking to move out of that urban environment.

And all of that is completely unrelated to what the article is about.

Re: Can payments persuade Canadian residents to move away from dying villages?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's because Toronto is in a state of transition. No one complains about NY, London, HK real-estate because it's already understood to be expensive in the mainstream. But Toronto real-estate being expensive is relatively new such that you have people who grew up in Toronto not being able to afford it in adulthood. People are slowly realizing that TO is now just another global city out of reach to the middle class unl…

It's so cold there, who needs a backyard? You can only use it 2 weeks a year, and you'd be better off sailing.

Honestly, as a Canadian, this is what I find so dumb about our urban planning. People demand adequate house spacing, backyard space, etc... Only for it to be usable for 4 months of the year. Meanwhile, all that dead space makes our cities unwalkable in the other 8 months. I guess people are just so used to having to drive everywhere that they don't see how else it could be.

Re: Can payments persuade Canadian residents to move away from dying villages?

#18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's because Toronto is in a state of transition. No one complains about NY, London, HK real-estate because it's already understood to be expensive in the mainstream. But Toronto real-estate being expensive is relatively new such that you have people who grew up in Toronto not being able to afford it in adulthood. People are slowly realizing that TO is now just another global city out of reach to the middle class unl…

It's so cold there, who needs a backyard? You can only use it 2 weeks a year, and you'd be better off sailing.

Honestly, as a Canadian, this is what I find so dumb about our urban planning. People demand adequate house spacing, backyard space, etc... Only for it to be usable for 4 months of the year. Meanwhile, all that dead space makes our cities unwalkable in the other 8 months. I guess people are just so used to having to drive everywhere that they don't see how else it could be.

Re: Can payments persuade Canadian residents to move away from dying villages?

#19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's because Toronto is in a state of transition. No one complains about NY, London, HK real-estate because it's already understood to be expensive in the mainstream. But Toronto real-estate being expensive is relatively new such that you have people who grew up in Toronto not being able to afford it in adulthood. People are slowly realizing that TO is now just another global city out of reach to the middle class unl…

It's so cold there, who needs a backyard? You can only use it 2 weeks a year, and you'd be better off sailing.

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Re: Can payments persuade Canadian residents to move away from dying villages?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's because Toronto is in a state of transition. No one complains about NY, London, HK real-estate because it's already understood to be expensive in the mainstream. But Toronto real-estate being expensive is relatively new such that you have people who grew up in Toronto not being able to afford it in adulthood. People are slowly realizing that TO is now just another global city out of reach to the middle class unl…

It's so cold there, who needs a backyard? You can only use it 2 weeks a year, and you'd be better off sailing.

May-Sept is generally regarded as "spring/summer" and, while the backyard is useless half the year, it is still apparently nice to have.

I think they're a ridiculous pain in the ass and largely useless but that's beside the point -- some people still derive enjoyment from them.

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