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Zuckerberg and Chan aim to tackle all disease by 2100

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Re: Zuckerberg and Chan aim to tackle all disease by 2100

#141
This is lovely and all.

But he is in a much better position to work on the curious problems of ever increasing political polarization in our new Post-Factual world.

If I were to guess, over the next century that problem is going to result is a vastly more misery than a slight speed up to medical technology could compensate for.

Re: Zuckerberg and Chan aim to tackle all disease by 2100

#142
These acts of apparent philanthropy from ridiculously wealthy people rub me the wrong way. It feels like those rich patrons from older times who would bestow their "generosity" as they pleased, except that in modern times most countries have frameworks in place to make this sort of work happen, and these rich people choose to ignore them, or worse, disparage them.

Companies like Facebook (and people like Mark Zuckerberg) actively avoid paying taxes whenever they can, in a lot of countries that, for example, have public healthcare and other public institutions that would normally benefit from these taxes.

It's a bit like repeatedly stealing some kid's lunch, and then making fun of the kid for her weakness while appearing strong (and stronger in comparison to the weak kid) and compassionate when the kid passes out and you carry her on your back.

Re: Zuckerberg and Chan aim to tackle all disease by 2100

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post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Um, I know a solution to the obesity crisis....

Eat less, exercise more? Easy to say right, but the simple message isn't working obviously. Obesity levels have doubled over the last 40 years. Its not sporadic either, it's affecting the entire population now. Why is this happening?

The government (and medical science) was wrong about what it told us to eat for the past 40 years.

Re: Zuckerberg and Chan aim to tackle all disease by 2100

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post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Um, I know a solution to the obesity crisis....

Eat less, exercise more? Easy to say right, but the simple message isn't working obviously. Obesity levels have doubled over the last 40 years. Its not sporadic either, it's affecting the entire population now. Why is this happening?

people believing there is some mystical cause to their obesity is the problem. People like to blame some magical undiscovered illness when they are just eating too much, eating too many bad foods, not exercising enough or a combination of those. there is no mystery to obesity but I do believe we can do more to educate people on better / healthier lifestyle habits.

Re: Zuckerberg and Chan aim to tackle all disease by 2100

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"Mark Zuckerberg and Priscilla Chan announce $3 billion initiative to ‘cure all diseases’" http://venturebeat.com/2016/09/21/mark-zuckerberg-and-prisci...

I suspect it would have been much better for them to simply partner with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, where they're actually curing diseases. They've literally almost eradicated polio globally[1]. [1] http://www.gatesfoundation.org/What-We-Do/Global-Development/Polio

Well honestly that's a much easier task. Polio is a solved problem. The vaccine has existed for decades. It's just a matter of money to get it out to enough people.

Curing "all" disease is a bit more ambitious.

Not to say that in the end, Gates isn't helping more people today.

Re: Zuckerberg and Chan aim to tackle all disease by 2100

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"yes we can!" built the atomic bomb.

Mark ("and Priscilla") are pledging $3B. The Manhattan project cost was "about $26 billion in 2016 dollars" according to the Wikipedia article. They are short $23B.

"They are short $23B."

That's where this part comes in:

"The more people believe we can cure all disease in our children's lifetimes, the more likely the government is to invest in it"

Re: Zuckerberg and Chan aim to tackle all disease by 2100

#149

These acts of apparent philanthropy from ridiculously wealthy people rub me the wrong way. It feels like those rich patrons from older times who would bestow their "generosity" as they pleased, except that in modern times most countries have frameworks in place to make this sort of work happen, and these rich people choose to ignore them, or worse, disparage them. Companies like Facebook (and people like Mark Zuckerb…

Very true. Empires build by companies with low ethics and that are known for bullying competition and poor integrity.

Some skepticism here would be appropriate. I guess it's still better then them buying more, eh, yachts.

Still, I can't shake the feeling that instead of making a horrible closed product, Facebook, that's basically eating the internet like a cancer, itself -- how about fixing that too?

These people are so powerful they have presidents kissing their ass.

Re: Zuckerberg and Chan aim to tackle all disease by 2100

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post #73

Probably not feasible without some genetic re-engineering to design out vulnerabilities to common diseases. That's how aging will probably be solved. There's a big debug time problem, though. It takes about two generations to be sure you got it right. We'll probably have very long lived mice decades before it works for humans. (Many cancers in mice can be cured now. This doesn't translate to humans.) Then there will…

> That's how aging will probably be solved

I read in some article of the Google equivalent version of this, Calico, that even if you cure all of cancer the average life expectancy will probably only increase by ~5 years (off the top of my head, can't find link).

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