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Re: Show HN: Weebly 4 – Websites, eCommerce and Email Marketing

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Post by SwellJoe »

drusenko wrote: post #41
SwellJoe wrote: post #25

Weebly is one of the companies from our batch (W07) that I would have wanted to invest in, if given the opportunity. They just build really cool products for non-technical folks. I've been recommending them for years (even though they kinda/sorta indirectly compete with what we build). I've been surprised by how important and effective email still is to most small businesses, and it's a hard problem to solve; having…

hah, hey Joe! how are things? :) not too many of us still around from the W07 bach ;)

We're still hanging in there. Our Open Source user base keeps growing, but revenue from our commercial products has been flat for too long; we're working on some hosted products, to hopefully address that. It's likely a pivot is in our future. And, on the personal front, I'm still traveling mostly full-time in an RV (as I've been doing off and on since I left the valley ~7 years ago).

Re: Show HN: Weebly 4 – Websites, eCommerce and Email Marketing

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Post by personlurking »

stevoski wrote: post #30
drusenko wrote: post #2

Hey everyone, David (founder/ceo) of Weebly here. We’re really excited about this launch, Weebly is now a platform to power a business online with websites, ecommerce, and email marketing all under one roof. In case you haven’t heard of us, we were W07 (one of the first YC batches) — 9 years later, over 40M people have created their site or store on Weebly, and 325M people around the world and half of the US populati…

I just followed your link on an English-language website (Hacker News) in response to an English-language comment (yours) on my iPad (running in English, my mother tongue and main language) while in Spain (where I live) Your site was presented to me in Spanish. Please don't do this. Don't choose a language for me based on my location.

I had the same thing happen to me, verbatim (ie, in Spain). To make it worse, I'm on a slow connection so after several tries to get it to load - in English to boot - I gave up. Will have to remind myself to see it tomorrow when I go to a cafe w/ wifi.

Re: Show HN: Weebly 4 – Websites, eCommerce and Email Marketing

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Post by personlurking »

stevoski wrote: post #40
_audakel wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are probably an outlier, in that majority of ip requests coming from spain are going to want spanish. it makes sense to render default in spanish. I am not sure what headers your ipad is sending, but i doubt it sends what your language preference is. (i could be wrong) also, as previous sites don't add the chosen language in the click request, i don't see how being on hn previously is relevant. the flip side to t…

I'm an outlier indeed, but plenty of people live or travel in countries that use languages they don't speak or prefer, and don't want find themselves redirected to websites they don't understand. Spanish speakers (in Spain at least) tend to come from google.es, which prefers Spanish-language results, or from Spanish language links and discussions. It is wrong behaviour to choose my language based on my location.

Google.es doesn't seem to work that well, in certain circumstances. I often write in Portuguese and when I do searches with words in that language, the results come up almost entirely in Spanish (even when placing the phrase in quotes).

Given, they're "similar" languages, but I would think Google would recognize "não" (no), for example, as belonging to the Portuguese language (especially since it's the only language that uses that word).

Re: Show HN: Weebly 4 – Websites, eCommerce and Email Marketing

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Post by invertedohm »

stevoski wrote: post #30
drusenko wrote: post #2

Hey everyone, David (founder/ceo) of Weebly here. We’re really excited about this launch, Weebly is now a platform to power a business online with websites, ecommerce, and email marketing all under one roof. In case you haven’t heard of us, we were W07 (one of the first YC batches) — 9 years later, over 40M people have created their site or store on Weebly, and 325M people around the world and half of the US populati…

I just followed your link on an English-language website (Hacker News) in response to an English-language comment (yours) on my iPad (running in English, my mother tongue and main language) while in Spain (where I live) Your site was presented to me in Spanish. Please don't do this. Don't choose a language for me based on my location.

I'd like to second this, while also noting that a side-effect of this noodling-with-languages is that my fully English OS and browser is getting a page with some content (full paragraphs!) in Dutch, while other content is in English. On the same page. An interesting bug, but not one that inspires confidence.

Re: Show HN: Weebly 4 – Websites, eCommerce and Email Marketing

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Post by imaginenore »

uses wrote: post #52

This page slows my browser to a crawl. I had to close the page to type this comment. Same if I open it in incognito with no extensions. Chrome Version 53.0.2785.116 m, Windows 10

Weebly generates absolutely ridiculous code. Tons of CSS files, tons of JS files, plus random blocks of embedded JS.

I've recently wanted to move a website off of Weebly for a friend, and it's a nightmare. Instead of simple clean markup you get all kinds of monstrosity.

Re: Show HN: Weebly 4 – Websites, eCommerce and Email Marketing

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Post by fergyfresh »

stevoski wrote: post #30
drusenko wrote: post #2

Hey everyone, David (founder/ceo) of Weebly here. We’re really excited about this launch, Weebly is now a platform to power a business online with websites, ecommerce, and email marketing all under one roof. In case you haven’t heard of us, we were W07 (one of the first YC batches) — 9 years later, over 40M people have created their site or store on Weebly, and 325M people around the world and half of the US populati…

I just followed your link on an English-language website (Hacker News) in response to an English-language comment (yours) on my iPad (running in English, my mother tongue and main language) while in Spain (where I live) Your site was presented to me in Spanish. Please don't do this. Don't choose a language for me based on my location.

If you look at your http request headers @stevoski do you have more than one [Accepted-Language]? Is one of them Spanish?

Also, @drusenko (forgot your name on HN)[Edited to add his name], it SHOULD be pretty easy to change your code to switch languages based on [Accepted-Language] and still do localization for payments/time/calendar stuff like that. PM me if you want.

Re: Show HN: Weebly 4 – Websites, eCommerce and Email Marketing

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Post by fergyfresh »

drusenko wrote: post #45
stevoski wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for your response. It is indeed tricky, as I know from both sides of the situation. I don't think this behaviour is as prevalent as you suggest. I just checked Facebook and Google from a newly opened "private browsing" tab and both gave me English versions.

Interesting. I experienced it differently myself (while I was traveling, both Google and Facebook would show me local language, regional sites), as have others we've tested with. We've done a bit of research into how others do it to come to this point, but it looks like we should dig a bit deeper.

[Accepted-Language] in the HTTP header and the location based on the IP address (Google has a super easy API for this) is the easiest way that I could think of. Both are pretty easy to implement as I have done both before.
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