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Re: Show HN: Weebly 4 – Websites, eCommerce and Email Marketing

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Post by drusenko »

SwellJoe wrote: post #25

Weebly is one of the companies from our batch (W07) that I would have wanted to invest in, if given the opportunity. They just build really cool products for non-technical folks. I've been recommending them for years (even though they kinda/sorta indirectly compete with what we build). I've been surprised by how important and effective email still is to most small businesses, and it's a hard problem to solve; having…

hah, hey Joe! how are things? :)

not too many of us still around from the W07 bach ;)

Re: Show HN: Weebly 4 – Websites, eCommerce and Email Marketing

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Post by stevoski »

drusenko wrote: post #36
stevoski wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just followed your link on an English-language website (Hacker News) in response to an English-language comment (yours) on my iPad (running in English, my mother tongue and main language) while in Spain (where I live) Your site was presented to me in Spanish. Please don't do this. Don't choose a language for me based on my location.

This one is really tricky. You'll see this same behavior by Google, Facebook, and most other major providers. We spent a lot of time looking into this, it's unfortunately a very complex situation: 1- In theory browser language should be the perfect way to do it, in practice as often as 25% of the time or more it's set incorrectly. Unfortunately, that means a lot of people that don't speak English end up with English…

Thanks for your response. It is indeed tricky, as I know from both sides of the situation. I don't think this behaviour is as prevalent as you suggest.

I just checked Facebook and Google from a newly opened "private browsing" tab and both gave me English versions.

Re: Show HN: Weebly 4 – Websites, eCommerce and Email Marketing

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Post by fligtar »

donutdan4114 wrote: post #23

Do app integrations have a way of storing arbitrary data on resources, such as products? For example, Shopify has "metafields" which allow Apps to add strings of data within a namespace/key, which can then be used in the liquid templating engine.

Justin from the Weebly Apps team here -- that's a great suggestion! We'd love to add functionality to store custom data on products, pages, blog posts, etc. and even allow apps to access other apps' data stored in that fashion. We don't support this quite yet, but it's something we're thinking about. You can find all of our documentation at http://dev.weebly.com

Re: Show HN: Weebly 4 – Websites, eCommerce and Email Marketing

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Post by drusenko »

stevoski wrote: post #42
drusenko wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This one is really tricky. You'll see this same behavior by Google, Facebook, and most other major providers. We spent a lot of time looking into this, it's unfortunately a very complex situation: 1- In theory browser language should be the perfect way to do it, in practice as often as 25% of the time or more it's set incorrectly. Unfortunately, that means a lot of people that don't speak English end up with English…

Thanks for your response. It is indeed tricky, as I know from both sides of the situation. I don't think this behaviour is as prevalent as you suggest. I just checked Facebook and Google from a newly opened "private browsing" tab and both gave me English versions.

Interesting. I experienced it differently myself (while I was traveling, both Google and Facebook would show me local language, regional sites), as have others we've tested with. We've done a bit of research into how others do it to come to this point, but it looks like we should dig a bit deeper.

Re: Show HN: Weebly 4 – Websites, eCommerce and Email Marketing

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Post by jacalulu »

stevoski wrote: post #35
drusenko wrote: post #2

Hey everyone, David (founder/ceo) of Weebly here. We’re really excited about this launch, Weebly is now a platform to power a business online with websites, ecommerce, and email marketing all under one roof. In case you haven’t heard of us, we were W07 (one of the first YC batches) — 9 years later, over 40M people have created their site or store on Weebly, and 325M people around the world and half of the US populati…

It seems you still don't manage adding and collecting EU VAT? That's a dealbreaker for anyone in the EU wanting to use you for an online store.

Hey! Jaclyn here (eCommerce Group Product Manager @Weebly). We have made some improvements this launch to help get us closer to full VAT support, which is something that we plan to get to in the future. We know this is vital for EU businesses, and we definitely want to improve this experience, but in the meantime we have several options to help support this.

Specifically, we've added the option to specify if you want to include taxes in your prices. If selected, we will show a tax summary under the order total.

In addition to this, you can also add a Note to Seller field in checkout and use this to optionally collect VAT IDs if you are selling to customers that could be tax exempt. When an order comes in, the order details will display the message left here by your customer. If they left a valid VAT ID number, you can refund their order the tax amount using our improved refund functionality that easily lets you issue partial refunds.

Finally, you can specify on a per product basis whether an item should have tax applied to it or not.

Hope this helps - and as mentioned, we are working on improving this area and adding an even easier VAT setup feature inthe future!

Re: Show HN: Weebly 4 – Websites, eCommerce and Email Marketing

#47

Post by matt_kantor »

_audakel wrote: post #33
stevoski wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just followed your link on an English-language website (Hacker News) in response to an English-language comment (yours) on my iPad (running in English, my mother tongue and main language) while in Spain (where I live) Your site was presented to me in Spanish. Please don't do this. Don't choose a language for me based on my location.

You are probably an outlier, in that majority of ip requests coming from spain are going to want spanish. it makes sense to render default in spanish. I am not sure what headers your ipad is sending, but i doubt it sends what your language preference is. (i could be wrong) also, as previous sites don't add the chosen language in the click request, i don't see how being on hn previously is relevant. the flip side to t…

> I am not sure what headers your ipad is sending, but i doubt it sends what your language preference is. (i could be wrong)

You're wrong. :)

This is what the Accept-Language header is meant for[1]. AFAIK it is sent by most modern browsers, although as the referenced MDN article explains it isn't always an accurate reflection of user preferences. I'm not sure how iOS Safari in particular sets its value, but I would imagine that it is based on the current OS language setting.

[1]: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Content_ne...

Re: Show HN: Weebly 4 – Websites, eCommerce and Email Marketing

#49

Post by nostrademons »

drusenko wrote: post #36
stevoski wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just followed your link on an English-language website (Hacker News) in response to an English-language comment (yours) on my iPad (running in English, my mother tongue and main language) while in Spain (where I live) Your site was presented to me in Spanish. Please don't do this. Don't choose a language for me based on my location.

This one is really tricky. You'll see this same behavior by Google, Facebook, and most other major providers. We spent a lot of time looking into this, it's unfortunately a very complex situation: 1- In theory browser language should be the perfect way to do it, in practice as often as 25% of the time or more it's set incorrectly. Unfortunately, that means a lot of people that don't speak English end up with English…

Google saves the preferred language in a cookie setting, which you can manually reset via hamburger menu -> Search Settings -> Languages or with the &hl= CGI parameter. Most of the time it's autodetected via the queries you type though - the only time it's likely to be wrong is if you type a query that's in an ambiguous language (eg. a proper noun), have no cookies (eg. incognito, or first time searching with the browser), and are not signed in. Then it defaults to the geographic location.
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