Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

'Mr. Robot' may be fiction, but its hacking plots are all too real

recode.net

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

121–130 of 179 posts

Re: 'Mr. Robot' may be fiction, but its hacking plots are all too real

#121

Post by Crespyl »

adrianlmm wrote: post #84

Show had so much potential, all when down the drain in season 2.

Care to elaborate on what you didn't like about S2?

I enjoyed most of season 1, but started to get turned off by the philosophy/politics towards the end and kind of stopped paying attention.

Now I'm seeing people say S2 is more critical of the characters and explores the ideas in some more interesting ways, which has pretty much convinced me to start watching again.

You're the first I've seen who specifically didn't like S2.

Re: 'Mr. Robot' may be fiction, but its hacking plots are all too real

#122

Post by yetanotheracc »

Demoneeri wrote: post #44

I've watched S01 but I'm not sure I'll watch S02. The cliché about dysfunctional people in IT is too much for me. I'm a normal person and I don't have difficulties in dealing with other human beings. Also the part about vilifying companies and loving big government is not my cup of tea. At least in Person of Interest both were bad. Last part, vilifying money as a medium of exchange is just absurd. Are they expecting…

> I'm a normal person and I don't have difficulties in dealing with other human beings.

Then why are you so insecure about it?

Re: 'Mr. Robot' may be fiction, but its hacking plots are all too real

#123

Post by dllthomas »

Crespyl wrote: post #121
adrianlmm wrote: post #84

Show had so much potential, all when down the drain in season 2.

Care to elaborate on what you didn't like about S2? I enjoyed most of season 1, but started to get turned off by the philosophy/politics towards the end and kind of stopped paying attention. Now I'm seeing people say S2 is more critical of the characters and explores the ideas in some more interesting ways, which has pretty much convinced me to start watching again. You're the first I've seen who specifically didn't…

Season one ends with a lot of momentum. Season two starts very slow, for good reason. It doesn't stay that way.

Re: 'Mr. Robot' may be fiction, but its hacking plots are all too real

#124

Post by Unklejoe »

wnevets wrote: post #100
Unklejoe wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except Seinfeld, of course.

who was the normal one in Seinfeld?

They all had their quirks, but overall, they were all meant to be relatable to in their own way. Of course, some were really out there (Kramer, Soup Nazi, etc...), but I think Jerry, George, and Elaine were all kind of normal.

I believe that the show was so popular because many people saw connections between the characters and people they actually knew in real life. Compared to Mr. Robot, I would say that the characters in Seinfeld were far more normal.

So maybe relatable doesn’t necessarily mean normal, but that’s what I was thinking.

Re: 'Mr. Robot' may be fiction, but its hacking plots are all too real

#125

Post by wnevets »

Unklejoe wrote: post #124
wnevets wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

who was the normal one in Seinfeld?

They all had their quirks, but overall, they were all meant to be relatable to in their own way. Of course, some were really out there (Kramer, Soup Nazi, etc...), but I think Jerry, George, and Elaine were all kind of normal. I believe that the show was so popular because many people saw connections between the characters and people they actually knew in real life. Compared to Mr. Robot, I would say that the charact…

When the show started that was probably the case but as the seasons went on they became cartoon characters. I believe the finale was to show just how awful they and their actions were.

Re: 'Mr. Robot' may be fiction, but its hacking plots are all too real

#126

Post by red_blobs »

I watched the first couple of episodes and had to stop. The 'I'm special and nobody understands me' theme was incredibly derivative.

Being an uber liberal-minded hacker in the US today is mainsteam and trendy, not rebellious..which is exactly the antithesis of the hacker credo.

I just wish there was more original thought and less pandering to the Reddit community.

Truly great shows make us think, not just tell us something it thinks we want to hear.

The hacking scenes are accurate, but I would rather open up a terminal and do it than watch a poor representation of it on television.

Re: 'Mr. Robot' may be fiction, but its hacking plots are all too real

#127

Post by mxuribe »

binarymax wrote: post #51
pawadu wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find the Australian mini series "The Code" much more realistic.

That looks really interesting, thanks for the recommendation. Do you know off hand if it is available on Netflix or Amazon?

I saw it on netflix...and just checked, its still available on netflix. Do note, I'm U.S. based, so not sure if you're outside U.S. Also, I give it a thumbs-up; not Mr.Robot but still a well done series (I think anyways).

Re: 'Mr. Robot' may be fiction, but its hacking plots are all too real

#128

Post by Unklejoe »

wnevets wrote: post #125
Unklejoe wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They all had their quirks, but overall, they were all meant to be relatable to in their own way. Of course, some were really out there (Kramer, Soup Nazi, etc...), but I think Jerry, George, and Elaine were all kind of normal. I believe that the show was so popular because many people saw connections between the characters and people they actually knew in real life. Compared to Mr. Robot, I would say that the charact…

When the show started that was probably the case but as the seasons went on they became cartoon characters. I believe the finale was to show just how awful they and their actions were.

Yeah true. It seems like that's the trend for a lot of shows. The events and characters keep getting more and more ridiculous. I guess they have to keep introducing new things to keep the show interesting.

I think it’s starting to happen with Mr. Robot already. I liked season 1 a lot, but I’m not as big of a fan of season 2. I think they’re going too far with the whole “delusional acid trip” kind of thing.

Re: 'Mr. Robot' may be fiction, but its hacking plots are all too real

#129

Post by mindslight »

cheald wrote: post #115
mindslight wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who believes in free markets and voluntary exchange, the ethos of Mr Robot resonates with me. I also haven't seen any love of big government (but I've only seen S01). When government is continually debasing money through forced inflation, it's not surprising that people develop a distaste for money itself. Rather than functioning as a virtuous representation of value creation, inflating money just represen…

If you believe in rational markets, you should also probably consider that those rational markets are capable of pricing stable inflation into nominal pricing. Consider that money is widely accepted to be neutral in the long-run. In inflationary economies, there is nothing stopping individuals from saving value in the form of assets ; you can store your value in pork bellies or gold or ownership of a company or whate…

Even rational markets do not respond immediately or frictionlessly. And I wouldn't call a market where one sector gets a steady inflow of newly-created money "rational".

The disconnect in your analysis is that price inflation hits hardest the areas where the conjured money is injected into the wider economy. Saving in gold works to pay for food, but not to pay for housing. To keep up with the latter, you must invest in housing to cover the entirety of your consumption. Until you achieve that, you're over the barrel servicing debt. This encourages everybody into further helping to inflate that bubble, with those who've succeeded then lobbying for even more housing inflation.

Re: 'Mr. Robot' may be fiction, but its hacking plots are all too real

#130

Post by xufi »

psyc wrote: post #64

I'd probably think this was one of the best shows ever written, even without a lot of the hacker stuff. The fact that they obviously use consultants who know their stuff, and depict hacking better than 97% of other fiction, is a great bonus.

I agree 100 percent. The second I heard (and the fact that I watched the last documentary like episode of the show of Season 1 that talked with the cybersecurity experts). That made me love it even more
Post reply on HN