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Re: Ask HN: Where do you go to get recruiters to find you a job?

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Post by liquidcool » Mon, Sep 19, 2016, 11:36 PM UTC

I'm a developer/manager who does recruiting, but mostly in SoCal, and I see you're in the Bay area. Up there, you might reach out to Aline Lerner. She did the same, although I understand she is now focused on interviewing.io. Still, wouldn't hurt to ask her:

http://blog.alinelerner.com/about/

Another way to do it is go on Indeed at look at relevant job postings from recruiters that are well written. I find I can tell right away when they are useless; it's clearly cut/paste straight from the client and has a total "job shop" feel.

I don't know if you'll get an honest answer, but another good sign is that they have direct contact with the hiring manager.

Feel free to reach out, happy to answer any questions.

Re: Ask HN: Where do you go to get recruiters to find you a job?

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Post by leeny » Mon, Sep 19, 2016, 11:46 PM UTC

liquidcool wrote: post #61

I'm a developer/manager who does recruiting, but mostly in SoCal, and I see you're in the Bay area. Up there, you might reach out to Aline Lerner. She did the same, although I understand she is now focused on interviewing.io. Still, wouldn't hurt to ask her: http://blog.alinelerner.com/about/ Another way to do it is go on Indeed at look at relevant job postings from recruiters that are well written. I find I can tell…

Aline here. Wow, huge thank you for the awesome shout-out!

I am indeed focused on interviewing.io, but I like to think it's a more efficient, productized way of doing what I was doing as a recruiter. You get free interview practice, and if you do well, you start getting invites to technical interviews with great companies, bypassing all the crap you'd normally have to do to get in the door.

https://www.interviewing.io

Re: Ask HN: Where do you go to get recruiters to find you a job?

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Post by leeny » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 1:23 AM UTC

einarvollset wrote: post #17

Genuinely surprised at the usual "muah muah, can't swat them away" chatter. Having basically the equivalent of an agent in your corner would be a very valuable service, but crucially this agent would need to have an impeccable reputation, hence any of the usual recruiters only "doing secretarial work" wouldn't work. They would need to be genuinely well connected professionals. I can see an ongoing relationship with s…

These kinds of services exist for contractors but, afaik, not for full-time software engineers. I wrote about why here: http://blog.alinelerner.com/why-talent-agents-for-engineers-...

TL;DR In this market, where there's a shortage of labor, the economic incentive isn't there. You get paid a lot more when you work for companies. It's the opposite of what you see in Hollywood, where there's a surplus of labor and a shortage of jobs.

Re: Ask HN: Where do you go to get recruiters to find you a job?

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Post by eibrahim » Wed, Sep 21, 2016, 12:39 PM UTC

bbcbasic wrote: post #46

jwatte wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For that to work, you have to arbitrage the fee the business would pay to a recruiter against the lost income for the employee you place. Maybe you have secret sauce that makes it possible? Tell us more?

Not possible. To provide a good service then jobs found via recruiters must be included, the recruiter must be paid. Instead, the best they can do for you as a candidate is negotiate hard on your behalf. This might be a good service for someone who is currently underpaid and is happy to give up 10% to have a negotiator get them up by 30% from their current role. The help with CV etc. stuff can be got a lot more cheap…

I am with you. It really is not rocket science but let's admit it, many developers suck at negotiating and will get distracted by the free macbook and $5000 bonus and ignore the fact that they could have have gotten a much higher salary :).

It comes down to simple math, why not pay 10% to get 30% - it's that simple. But just like any service, of course you can do it on your own and save the 10% :).