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Re: Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I said I was running Fedora 24 on an X260, implied that it's on metal. However, I also want to run VirtualBox inside Fedora, because my job requires me to have a Windows VM. And VirtualBox has its own kernel modules, with SecureBoot they need to be signed. Unfortunately the poor UEFI implementation Lenovo has provided won't let me enter my own MOKs into the UEFI because coincidentally that little write call is missin…

Why don't you use KVM/libvirt instead of Vbox?

I'm not sure that would help - libvirt also has kernel modules

Re: Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop

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post #73

Lenovo again. As if the recent thinkpad scandal was not enough. Incidentally I know of another company that went to bed with MS and it didn't work out very well - enter Nokia.

Don't forget about other greatest hits like the Superfish scandal.

Re: Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop

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post #47

The other HN thread suggests this not actually a dark conspiracy by Microsoft but simply a case of missing linux drivers for the storage devices. This sounds believable to me. But I'll put my tinfoil hat on just for fun and pretend it was an intentional move. Could this make sense as a new twist on the old strategy, making it "Embrace, Extinguish, Extend"? With the WSL, they made it theoretically possible to run Linu…

Someone got through the Lenovo lock with direct BIOS flashing: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53ri0m/warning_micro...

Re: Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop

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post #53
post #42

Maybe someone can help me understanding. Why is it OK to lock down smartphones, TV devices, consoles, but not OK for PCs?

When was it okay to prevent me to do what I want to something I own ? Absolutely never ever. Region locking of DVDs, DRMs of all sorts, smartphones locking are plain, shameless abuse. It's however particularly unacceptable to lock down what used to be open.

>When was it okay to prevent me to do what I want to something I own?

Ever since not preventing you also meant not preventing others, and thus malware, exploits, pwnage, stolen data and passwords, etc.

And ever since what you wanted to do was hurting others (e.g. not driving while drunk, even if its your car) or violating other's copyright.

Re: Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop

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Get a Developer Edition XPS 13 from Dell instead, comes with Linux pre-installed. I have one and they are awesome, if manufacturers support Linux they get my $.

I bought a Lenovo X1 Carbon (most recent gen) and really regret it for a great many reasons. Wish I had gone for the XPS. Actually what swayed me was the very slightly larger screen.

Mind sharing what your biggest issue with the X1 Carbon is?

(In the market for a new laptop, and the X1 Carbon is/was on the list.)

Re: Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop

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post #111

Lenovo... I instantly think of SuperFish. I remember years ago determining to never own a Lenovo after attempting to change the wireless chip to one of identical size/compatibility only to find that it would not boot - the BIOS had a whitelist for one chip. HP has also done this. No Lenovo and no HP for me.

so what are you using now?

Re: Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop

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post #20

So they did lie when they said "Microsoft Loves Linux". https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsserver/2015/05/06... Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

> So they did lie when they said "Microsoft Loves Linux". No, the title and "secret agreement" theory is just BS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor > Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. MS hasn't been the boss of anyone much ever since 2005 or so... http://www.paulgraham.com/microsoft.html http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/APIWar.html

Then why did a Lenovo employee say there is an agreement? http://imgur.com/a/niewu

Re: Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought a Lenovo X1 Carbon (most recent gen) and really regret it for a great many reasons. Wish I had gone for the XPS. Actually what swayed me was the very slightly larger screen.

Mind sharing what your biggest issue with the X1 Carbon is? (In the market for a new laptop, and the X1 Carbon is/was on the list.)

See the other comment below.
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