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Say hello to Google Allo: a smarter messaging app

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Re: Say hello to Google Allo: a smarter messaging app

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Can't we just agree on one standard already? I hate having to use multiple messaging apps, that's the biggest UX failure right there, and it desperately needs fixing! Forget about all the other features!

agreed! This is what we're trying to do with Matrix (https://matrix.org)

Re: Say hello to Google Allo: a smarter messaging app

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post #8

I'm surprised Google Duo hasn't become more popular. It's a great cross-platform video chat app. I especially like the feature where you can see the other party before you answer their call. I have taken calls because of that feature that I otherwise wouldn't have. It's better than FaceTime because it works on Android. It's better than Skype and Google Hangouts because your cellphone number is your identity; you don'…

>i'm surprised Google Duo hasn't become more popular.//

I'm semi-actively looking for alternatives to Skype and hadn't heard of Duo.

I've an Android phone, they jam in so much junk I don't need, surprised not have had a notification of a Google communication app.

Personally I feel the space needs to be democratised badly. We need some way to take control of contacts lists so they can be locally (to the user) synced outside of any app and have a protocol like XMPP that's common across carriers so that [video] chat clients become like PSTN telephones.

Re: Say hello to Google Allo: a smarter messaging app

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post #124
post #8

I'm surprised Google Duo hasn't become more popular. It's a great cross-platform video chat app. I especially like the feature where you can see the other party before you answer their call. I have taken calls because of that feature that I otherwise wouldn't have. It's better than FaceTime because it works on Android. It's better than Skype and Google Hangouts because your cellphone number is your identity; you don'…

Google is treating video calling as it's own seperate thing. I much prefer Facebook Messenger where its about the contact, and u call/msg/video them and its all there in one stream. Google's disjointed approach to messaging/calling doesn't make sense to me or my non-techie friends.

What would be better if to have a client that keeps all of a contacted communiqués together - like messenger but with that person's direct tweets to you, and your hangout chats, and your live.com emails, ... that to me is the holy grail of messaging.

Re: Say hello to Google Allo: a smarter messaging app

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post #198

> Google Allo makes it easier for you to respond quickly and keep the conversation going, even when you’re on the go. With Smart Reply, you can respond to messages with just a tap, so you can send a quick “yup” in response to a friend asking “Are you on your way?” Smart Reply will also suggest responses for photos. If your friend sends you a photo of their pet, you might see Smart Reply suggestions like “aww cute!” A…

> I hope one day it can imitate me so well I can delegate all my chats to it. It will be like a mini-me! Next step is when both ends do this and cut out the human middle (wo)men.

Yeap! And after work we can have a meta-chat about what our mini-mes chatted while we were working.

Re: Say hello to Google Allo: a smarter messaging app

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> Google Allo makes it easier for you to respond quickly and keep the conversation going, even when you’re on the go. With Smart Reply, you can respond to messages with just a tap, so you can send a quick “yup” in response to a friend asking “Are you on your way?” Smart Reply will also suggest responses for photos. If your friend sends you a photo of their pet, you might see Smart Reply suggestions like “aww cute!” A…

mini-me! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini-Me ?

Exactly!

Re: Say hello to Google Allo: a smarter messaging app

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post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They did support client-server federation, but not server-server federation.

Whats "client-server" federation? Only the fact that you are able to connect via an openly specified protocol or is there more to it?

And that they properly handled protocol extensions, etc.

Which in turn allowed you to use XMPP bridges, that pretended to be an XMPP client on one server, but were federated to another server.

Re: Say hello to Google Allo: a smarter messaging app

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there are other reasons, but I really dislike using my phone number as an ID. Phone numbers are much harder to change , so if some annoying person gets a hold of it suddenly they can harass me across networks. This is a thing that actually happens! A big reason why I don't like telegram (even if everything else is awesome). I'm cool with my account being linked to a phone number, but I'd rather avoid giving t…

Shouldn't this work both ways, where if someone does harass you, that they have a phone number to sing into systems allows you to easily block them across all channels. Combined with Android spam blocker it could work well. That said I'd like 2 user options on my phone more to separate work/personal so I can turn off one but not the other.

Creating a new phone number to spam people takes about 2$ and 5 minutes at your nearest grocery store to get a prepaid card.

Changing your phone number and getting everyone who still has the old to change over can take years.

Re: Say hello to Google Allo: a smarter messaging app

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Lots of speculation about how long these apps will last. I personally suspect it's Hangouts that will be chopped. Google looked at Facebook Messenger and realised that the future was in personal assistants and the illusion of virtual/simulated AI, and realised also that Hangouts would become an unmanageable mess with more features added, so they are rolling out a Messenger competitor and a Hangouts video replacement with a transitional period to assess both feasibility, interest and to enable Hangouts customers to explore alternatives ahead of the shutdown, while attracting new business along the way.

Personally, I like Duo because I can talk to my partner with video even though my partner is on Android and is a bit of a technophobe.

The almost-too-simple UI is much easier for my partner to use than Hangouts, and Skype is a dog. I also do not use Facebook.

Google, like Apple now, and like Microsoft before it, is playing catch-up to Facebook and arguably has been since Google+. It's like Hollywood: remakes are far from innovative and are loathed by many who liked the originals or who crave fresh material, but a remake is much easier to get through the boardroom and easier to make profitable. Google should be pushing the boundaries but it's afraid of tarnishing its credibility with potentially bad decisions. They also want to appear active I suppose, and to collect what data they can from people who are likely to be loyal to a Google competitor to Facebook.

I think Google should be thinking doing more than buying up tech talent in acquihires and inflating an already bloated app ecosystem that threatens what business they already have, but I'm not a business person.

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