Lenovo... I instantly think of SuperFish. I remember years ago determining to never own a Lenovo after attempting to change the wireless chip to one of identical size/compatibility only to find that it would not boot - the BIOS had a whitelist for one chip. HP has also done this. No Lenovo and no HP for me.
Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop
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Re: Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop
#112That fossboss site is renowned for badly researched and terribly worded articles
Re: Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop
#113This was so predictable. And of course, the FSF called it: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot
> This was so predictable. That Linux lacks drivers for something and Microsoft somehow got the blame for it as part of some grand conspiracy? Certainly predictable for /r/linux. I thought HN was better than that.
Device not showing up on PCIe but probe isn't "a lack of driver". The OS doesn't even have a chance of loading a driver if it can't see the device.
Re: Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'll spell it out: a Lenovo representative said "This system has a Signature Edition of Windows 10 Home installed. It is locked per our agreement with Microsoft." This is what people are reacting to. Now, of course the rep might be mistaken. We need official clarification from someone higher up. But we won't get that until we go off on one and this goes viral.
Yes, but has anyone verified that? The person posting it even said they've booted a Linux installer - if it was "locked" at firmware level you wouldn't even be able to do that.
What needs to be verified, and by whom? Right now we have one assertion, from a person claiming to be a Lenovo representative (an "expert" even), on a Lenovo-hosted forum.
It is not up to the rest of the world to divine meaning from Lenovo's PR policy. If they are happy to allow nitwits to make public statements like that, they should be fully prepared to handle the fallout.
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#115Maybe someone can help me understanding. Why is it OK to lock down smartphones, TV devices, consoles, but not OK for PCs?
I hope I never have to deal with a locked down TV. Region-locked DVDs are bad enough.
Once, just before Blu-ray was a thing, I encountered a "HD DVD" which was a data DVD containing a Windows Media file. This used the embedded DRM licensing system to call home to a server when you played it, and refused to run if your source IP was not in the US.
Re: Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop
#116Maybe someone can help me understanding. Why is it OK to lock down smartphones, TV devices, consoles, but not OK for PCs?
> Why is it OK to lock down smartphones, TV devices, consoles
It isn't - and this is why I don't own a smartphone, smart TV or game console.
Re: Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop
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Re: Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop
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Re: Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop
#119Amazing how Lenovo managed to turn "Thinkpad", a respected and loved brand name, into shit within just a few years.
BTW it's now 11 years since the acquisition, quite some time in this business.
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#120I have been a long time ThinkPad user and recently purchased my latest ThinkPad T460p. Sadly it has some issues, the latest NVidia drivers don't work on the device but I'm forced to use the 1 year old driver that Lenovo provides in their packages. Figuring this out took my several days of trouble shooting (only dx9 was affected).
Also the system fan is constantly running. I went to their support site and the online support is not available in my country and the "contact support" system doesn't/didn't work (opened some empty box in the website). Super frustrating.
As much I hate to admit it, the ThinkPad is no longer what it was back in the IBM era.
Combined with stories about vendor lock in. I'm saddened to say that this shall be the last ThinkPad/Lenovo that I'm purchasing.