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Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop

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Re: Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop

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Post by Piskvorrr »

0x0 wrote: post #20

So they did lie when they said "Microsoft Loves Linux". https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsserver/2015/05/06... Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Embrace, Extend, Extinguish. Hello again MS, for a moment I was getting worried about you straying from your proven strategy.

Re: Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop

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Post by madaxe_again »

dewiz wrote: post #42

Maybe someone can help me understanding. Why is it OK to lock down smartphones, TV devices, consoles, but not OK for PCs?

Something like tradition. The IBM PC has been an "open" system since the late 70's. Tablets etc (palmtops!) started appearing in the 90's, and were walled gardens from the get go.

Re: Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop

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Post by wazoox »

dewiz wrote: post #42

Maybe someone can help me understanding. Why is it OK to lock down smartphones, TV devices, consoles, but not OK for PCs?

When was it okay to prevent me to do what I want to something I own ? Absolutely never ever. Region locking of DVDs, DRMs of all sorts, smartphones locking are plain, shameless abuse.

It's however particularly unacceptable to lock down what used to be open.

Re: Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop

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Post by Piskvorrr »

dewiz wrote: post #42

Maybe someone can help me understanding. Why is it OK to lock down smartphones, TV devices, consoles, but not OK for PCs?

It is not OK in any of those cases. The widespread practice just makes it easy to rationalize "but we are not the only vendor who does this."

Re: Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop

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Post by nvarsj »

dewiz wrote: post #42

Maybe someone can help me understanding. Why is it OK to lock down smartphones, TV devices, consoles, but not OK for PCs?

It's part of the PC culture, and the Thinkpad/Lenovo heritage as ideal Linux laptops. But you're right, it's no different from what Apple/LG/Samsung/etc. do.

Re: Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop

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Post by ctpide »

voltagex_ wrote: post #29
dTal wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll spell it out: a Lenovo representative said "This system has a Signature Edition of Windows 10 Home installed. It is locked per our agreement with Microsoft." This is what people are reacting to. Now, of course the rep might be mistaken. We need official clarification from someone higher up. But we won't get that until we go off on one and this goes viral.

Yes, but has anyone verified that? The person posting it even said they've booted a Linux installer - if it was "locked" at firmware level you wouldn't even be able to do that.

I believe you don't need to be able to read/write to the hard drive when boot a linux installer (aka live CD).

Re: Linux can’t be installed on a recent Lenovo laptop

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Post by witty_username »

kashyapc wrote: post #37
Yaggo wrote: post #13

Just out of curiosity, what's the rationale for MS & Lenovo to do this, why to risk PR? The number of people wanting to install Linux is marginal and they are already "on the wrong side".

What is this gibberish about being "on the wrong side"? Please don't make vacuous statements.

A vacuous statement is a statement about 0 things. So, ironically, you're saying that Linux has no users.
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