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Say hello to Google Allo: a smarter messaging app

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Re: Say hello to Google Allo: a smarter messaging app

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post #72

So now google has Voice, Messenger, Hangouts, Allo, and Duo all with overlapping functionality? I wish they would just focus on making Hangouts work really well.

In the end, I see all these apps dying. Even hangouts is crappy. They don't have a native mac client. Hangouts was a decent chat app they had. I wish they promoted hangouts as cross platform and as a competitor to both whatsapp and skype.

The Mac client for Hangouts got a big upgrade. It's not really native, but more like Slack (Electron).

Re: Say hello to Google Allo: a smarter messaging app

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post #87

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They still have their XMPP as well, but they never enabled SSL so it sends messages in plaintext and won't federate to modern XMPP servers/clients. What a clusterfuck of a company.

So let me get this straight, it works with older XMPP servers, but not modern, up to date versions of said servers?

No, it doesn't.

Google tore down the federation on purpose, with a configuration change. Rumour has it that it was a spam response.

There's an interesting similar spam campaign going on right now in email, BTW. https://wordtothewise.com/2016/09/ongoing-subscription-form-...

Re: Say hello to Google Allo: a smarter messaging app

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post #101
post #95

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End-to-end encryption from your phone to Google's server, where neural networks now analyze all your data, Super cute! Lovely Labrador!

From their FAQ: "Your chats are end-to-end encrypted and can only be seen by you and the person you're chatting with. Google can't read any of your messages, so you won't see any Smart Reply or Google Assistant features." https://support.google.com/allo/answer/6383724?ref_topic=637...

Who validates that that statement is indeed true, we in our naivety should just plain believe it?

Re: Say hello to Google Allo: a smarter messaging app

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post #154
post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From their FAQ: "Your chats are end-to-end encrypted and can only be seen by you and the person you're chatting with. Google can't read any of your messages, so you won't see any Smart Reply or Google Assistant features." https://support.google.com/allo/answer/6383724?ref_topic=637...

Who validates that that statement is indeed true, we in our naivety should just plain believe it?

As much as you would any other company - Apple, for example - unless someone trawls through the source code to verify the claim.

Re: Say hello to Google Allo: a smarter messaging app

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What's the uplink speed on the other end (presumably 4Mbps is downlink)? That would be a more limiting factor in the quality of the video you see on your end. But then I recall we had working video chat a decade ago with only a few hundred Kbps...

> But then I recall we had working video chat a decade ago with only a few hundred Kbps... This! Even in appear.in, which is one of the most stable, I encounter connection problems almost daily. Is it because all these new apps have to go through the browser stack?

No, WebRTC and codecs do support low bitrates. Someone got lazy coding the client.

Re: Say hello to Google Allo: a smarter messaging app

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post #55
post #8

I'm surprised Google Duo hasn't become more popular. It's a great cross-platform video chat app. I especially like the feature where you can see the other party before you answer their call. I have taken calls because of that feature that I otherwise wouldn't have. It's better than FaceTime because it works on Android. It's better than Skype and Google Hangouts because your cellphone number is your identity; you don'…

I think there are other reasons, but I really dislike using my phone number as an ID. Phone numbers are much harder to change , so if some annoying person gets a hold of it suddenly they can harass me across networks. This is a thing that actually happens! A big reason why I don't like telegram (even if everything else is awesome). I'm cool with my account being linked to a phone number, but I'd rather avoid giving t…

Even worse is when you loose your phone. I just lost mine (still hoping some nice Berliner turned it into the lost and found) and I guess I've gone and lost all my whatsapp history + contacts there.
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