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Say hello to Google Allo: a smarter messaging app

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Re: Say hello to Google Allo: a smarter messaging app

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post #72

So now google has Voice, Messenger, Hangouts, Allo, and Duo all with overlapping functionality? I wish they would just focus on making Hangouts work really well.

They still have their XMPP as well, but they never enabled SSL so it sends messages in plaintext and won't federate to modern XMPP servers/clients. What a clusterfuck of a company.

So let me get this straight, it works with older XMPP servers, but not modern, up to date versions of said servers?

Re: Say hello to Google Allo: a smarter messaging app

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post #72

So now google has Voice, Messenger, Hangouts, Allo, and Duo all with overlapping functionality? I wish they would just focus on making Hangouts work really well.

I think the way they see it is: Voice is basically deprecated Hangouts is enterprise Allo and Duo compete with Whatsapp/iMessage and Facetime/Skype respectively

Not quite:

- Facebook Messenger combines all the functionality of Allo and Duo. - Whatsapp already has voice calling and is adding video soon (so I read on the internet) - iMessage and Facetime integrate in IOS much better than Google Duo does. In IOS, you go to a contact and press facetime. On Android, you go to a contact... then go back out to Duo and call them.

WeChat, of course, does everything that all these apps will ever do - as of many years ago.

Re: Say hello to Google Allo: a smarter messaging app

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post #8

I'm surprised Google Duo hasn't become more popular. It's a great cross-platform video chat app. I especially like the feature where you can see the other party before you answer their call. I have taken calls because of that feature that I otherwise wouldn't have. It's better than FaceTime because it works on Android. It's better than Skype and Google Hangouts because your cellphone number is your identity; you don'…

Google is treating video calling as it's own seperate thing.

I much prefer Facebook Messenger where its about the contact, and u call/msg/video them and its all there in one stream.

Google's disjointed approach to messaging/calling doesn't make sense to me or my non-techie friends.

Re: Say hello to Google Allo: a smarter messaging app

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post #8

I'm surprised Google Duo hasn't become more popular. It's a great cross-platform video chat app. I especially like the feature where you can see the other party before you answer their call. I have taken calls because of that feature that I otherwise wouldn't have. It's better than FaceTime because it works on Android. It's better than Skype and Google Hangouts because your cellphone number is your identity; you don'…

I know, but nobody else will ever know because Google keeps losing all of its users to itself. Everybody I know got frustrated and moved on to things that just work... like ancient SMS, FaceTime, Facebook, etc. If you say "google" anything to them they just say; too complicated, doesn't work, UX sucks, etc. I think in reference to the UX people are speaking to chrome plugins.

Re: Say hello to Google Allo: a smarter messaging app

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post #72

So now google has Voice, Messenger, Hangouts, Allo, and Duo all with overlapping functionality? I wish they would just focus on making Hangouts work really well.

I think the way they see it is: Voice is basically deprecated Hangouts is enterprise Allo and Duo compete with Whatsapp/iMessage and Facetime/Skype respectively

but hangouts lacks things which are useful for enterprises such as video recording (it's possible only if you make a "hangout on air", afaiu) and, in my experience, screen sharing text/code is painful because of the video encoding making it unreadable.

To me hangouts looks like a competitor to Skype only, at this time.

Re: Say hello to Google Allo: a smarter messaging app

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post #8

I'm surprised Google Duo hasn't become more popular. It's a great cross-platform video chat app. I especially like the feature where you can see the other party before you answer their call. I have taken calls because of that feature that I otherwise wouldn't have. It's better than FaceTime because it works on Android. It's better than Skype and Google Hangouts because your cellphone number is your identity; you don'…

I'll use everything Google, but Duo has been the most stupid video chat app I've ever used. That's because in countries where the common household internet is still not that fast, it 'aggressively' pauses (completely removes) the video for long intervals in every few minutes citing slow connection. That's a frustrating experience. I generally get around 10-12 Mbps speed (which is on the higher side in India), and my…

I'm having the same issue with Duo. it pauses the video frequently. I switched back to FB Messenger, which just works without pausing video.

Google had said something about Google Duo being bandwidth friendly and good for slow connections but FB Messenger is miles ahead, at least in my usage. Which left me quite disappointed with Duo, as I like the idea of using Duo over FB.

Re: Say hello to Google Allo: a smarter messaging app

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The technology behind the feature is great, don't get me wrong. But there's something so empty about the Labrador response.

I want a discussion with a human. Not a human-curated conversation of algorithm-determined responses.

Simple human conversation isn't as much of a problem-to-be-solved as they seem to think it is.

Re: Say hello to Google Allo: a smarter messaging app

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post #78
post #47

An app that writes my messages for me. Great, now I can be 1 step further removed from any contacts from my friends and family.

Inbox does this too and in my brief experience so far, it's been accurate. I remember hearing about Amazon pre-emptively shipping goods to warehouses based on expected demand. If algorithms can anticipate our responses and our shopping, what will be left in the end?

I think it's a big difference to Amazon. They just forecast that in a given city x people will likely buy a certain product, so they already ship it there and only have to attach labels when it's ordered.

Google tries to exactly forecast what you will want to respond to a picture, which sounds a lot harder.

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