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Re: MacOS Sierra

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AS an outsider looking in. What is holding a developer from moving to Linux? I don't understand the draw of OS X for developers especially the past few years. These yearly updates seem to break everyone's workflow for a while.

Well, the linux Systemd nonsense is annoying, but I just run OpenRC, and ignore it for the most part.

Wait? What about Systemd BESIDES philosophy conflicts is annoying? Especially for develops. (I don't want to start that war again but I am curious what real world issue someone is talking about. I see systemd as awesome for developers #1 and users #2.

Re: MacOS Sierra

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Does any method of converting the store image to a bootable disk, like the previous versions, exist? Anybody tried it? I prefer testing major upgrades as clean installs. EDIT : createinstallmedia method is reported to be working. Haven't tried it yet myself.

> createinstallmedia method is reported to be working.

Why wouldn't it work? createinstallmedia has been bundled with every single installer since Mavericks.

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Well, the linux Systemd nonsense is annoying, but I just run OpenRC, and ignore it for the most part.

Wait? What about Systemd BESIDES philosophy conflicts is annoying? Especially for develops. (I don't want to start that war again but I am curious what real world issue someone is talking about. I see systemd as awesome for developers #1 and users #2.

The default kill on logout behaviour is a pisser, and relearning the new, more complicated way to do a wide variety of things (set hostname, automount, timed jobs, etc) is annoying, and the whole thing is a massive attack surface.

But it's certainly not unusable. It's not a good thing, by any stretch, it's a pretty face over a horrific monstrosity, but it's usable.

But the fight between the systemd/non-systemd camps, especially in the form of docker/rkt, is a real pain for both sides.

Re: MacOS Sierra

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Can someone help me use the github issue? All I need to do is remap the enter key to p. I dont understand how to use it though as there is no .json file on my computer. thanks

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> Conceptually, any such application is just an internet-connected filesystem driver with (presumably) a local cache in front. If we oversimplify to death, yes. In the real world, it's an application created on a deadline, to work on a specific backend and take advantage of its features, and to serve as a basis for future development (and to work across OS X, iOS, etc). Some of the stuff also includes tight integrati…

> as they would need to specify entry points and APIs that they then can't change. Presumably they could add new extensions as they go, and disable functionality that depends on them if they're not available. This stuff isn't exactly rocket science.

They could, but apps would break (especially ones whose devs are not quick to update or have abandoned), third party devs will complain on changes, etc. They wouldn't be able to iterate as they like, or make it depend on stuff only deep integration can provide.

And what would they get in instead? The ability to have the storage be powered by a third party cloud service because some folks might not trust or wont adopt iCloud?

If anything, they want folks to have reasons to adopt iCloud, not commoditize it.

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> Emacs works better than any IDE. In the immortal words of Jeffrey Lebowski: Well, that's like, your opinion, man. Good IDEs like IntelliJ and VS have so much better integration for given languages that only result in ad-hoc, ho-hum solutions in Emacs (if one can suffer the millions of key bindings). > Your browser is usually good enough for multimedia unless you're talking about creating it. Well, if multimedia we…

...And IDEs being better is your opinion. It's all subjective. Don't shove VS down our throats, and I won't do the same for Emacs. Thanks for the clarification of what you meant by multimedia. VLC, GIMP, Openshot, or an app run through Wine can handle all the things you described.

>..And IDEs being better is your opinion

Yes, but IDEs being more integrated with certain languages (e.g. IntelliJ and Java, VS and C#) instead of ad-hoc collection of scripts for a language that Emacs offers (except perhaps for Lisps) is a fact.

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> AS an outsider looking in. What is holding a developer from moving to Linux? I don't understand the draw of OS X for developers especially the past few years I've used UNIX for ages, started on Sun OS (pre-Solaris), HP-UX, have used several early Linux distros, RedHat, SuSE, Debian, Mandrake (!), FreeBSD for a year or so, and now I use Ubuntu for personal stuff and Centos professionally. I wouldn't use a Linux load…

Minor critique - Getting a MBP to run with dual external monitors is a complete and absolute nightmare involving propriety standards (thunderbolt), OS lockouts (MST works with bootcamp, but not OSX), and expensive Apple hardware (outdated $1000 monitors only). Apple is no longer the company of simplicity from yesteryear.

It might be -- I've only got one 4K I've tried.

But Thunderbolt is not "proprietary" is an open standard adopted by the industry at large, including PC makers.

Also the "expensive Apple hardware (outdated $1000 monitors only" is not really apt. It's not that running dual monitors necessitates using old Cinema Displays. It's just that Cinema Display's are old, and Apple hasn't made any new monitors for a few years. But no need to buy/use Apple monitors for that -- and it would be foolish to buy them when there are 4K ones around by Dell etc. Apple even keeps a page with supported and tested third party 4K monitors.

Re: MacOS Sierra

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Heads up for anyone using Karabiner to remap their keyboard-- it's not updated for Sierra yet. I figure that's a more popular app among HN crowd than most places, and losing it is really painful.

What can Karabiner do better than Ukelele? http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=...

Karabiner has support for most, if not all, keys on the keyboard. On a Mac, the Function keys aren't properly supported by the other key remapping apps. With Karabiner, I can use a PC keyboard to change screen brightness, volume, etc. I can also remap Fn+JKLI to the arrow keys, and much more.

Re: MacOS Sierra

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Feel free to continue using Snow Leopard if you're happy with it. Here are a few things I've liked in subsequent releases (sorry if some are actually in Snow Leopard and I forgot): * Notifications * Air Drop * Face Time * Native Full Screen apps * Multi-touch gestures (mostly use with multi-desktop and fullscreen apps) * Mac App Store (I like it better for OS updates) * Recovery Partition * App Resume * Terminal impr…

Maybe it upset you but apparently keep using Snow Leopard would not let me use any of the recent third party apps and it is totally useless to do so now. - Notifications : Had Growl, nothing new. - Air drop : Perhaps but personally in no need. - Native fullscreen : This is crazy. I turn iTunes fullscreen on secondary display and somehow it blacks out the primary screen for no good reason. Never using this feature. -…

> And for OSX naming... I thought Apple is an international company. Tiger, Leopard etc was easy to read and understand as a word for us foreigners and now what? El capitan? I must think their vision is just getting narrower naming a OS to some local name they thought was cool.

It's not just foreigners. Even us on the opposite side of the United States have no idea what El Capitan or Maverick is or means.

Re: MacOS Sierra

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Feel free to continue using Snow Leopard if you're happy with it. Here are a few things I've liked in subsequent releases (sorry if some are actually in Snow Leopard and I forgot): * Notifications * Air Drop * Face Time * Native Full Screen apps * Multi-touch gestures (mostly use with multi-desktop and fullscreen apps) * Mac App Store (I like it better for OS updates) * Recovery Partition * App Resume * Terminal impr…

Maybe it upset you but apparently keep using Snow Leopard would not let me use any of the recent third party apps and it is totally useless to do so now. - Notifications : Had Growl, nothing new. - Air drop : Perhaps but personally in no need. - Native fullscreen : This is crazy. I turn iTunes fullscreen on secondary display and somehow it blacks out the primary screen for no good reason. Never using this feature. -…

> Maybe it upset you I only said that because I didn't want my comment to come off as goading you into upgrading for the sake of it. I know a bunch of people using older versions of software and are very happy doing so. I was just pointing out a few things off the top of my head I've liked in newer versions in case you weren't familiar with them. Many of them were better integrations with things like iPhone and AppleTV, which might not apply to many people.

a few sporadic replies:

  * Notifications:  very few things apps supported growl and I like the integrated implementation better.  Growl also started charging money, which is fine, but yet another thing to juggle licensing and that friction drove me away.

  * multi-monitor:  People complained about multi-monitor handling in OSX /a lot/ until the last few years.  I haven't heard of any problems recently (maybe I've missed it).  I don't deal with it that much, but I still have problems with Windows and Linux...dialog boxes popping up straddling two windows, for example. 

  * Native fullscreen: Fullscreen API was added in 10.7, then changed in 10.8 and again in 10.9.  It sounds like because of a limitation at the time of the initial implementation it was integrated with Spaces which blanked out the second monitor.  If I remember, there was an option to have each screen use separate "Spaces" to avoid this and in recent version it works out of the box.  I think some apps like VLC or iTerm still use their own fullscreen implementation--but now all apps can be fullscreened without developer intervention.  I just pointed it out because as it exists today, it's a new feature like to use.

  * Compressed memory: compresses RAM when it can.  Improves performance on lower-end hardware.  I don't know about this specifically, but I've seen this kind of thing actually increase performance where i/o is more of a bottleneck than compressing.

  * Spotlight:  I rarely use it for file search (that in itself hasn't changed since SL), but I use it all the time as an app launcher and calculator.
My beef with Windows crapware was always applications that run on boot, or something that would throw pop up notices after they expire in 30 days. OSX has always had a bunch of application I never use: Automator, Calculator, Chess, Dictionary... just hide them, delete them, or ignore them.

The reason your new applications require new versions of the OS is because the frameworks got better. If new versions of the OS were just adding new applications you don't use, then people would still write their applications with the older, better APIs.

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