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Re: MacOS Sierra

#101

Post by rch » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 6:35 PM UTC

baldfat wrote: post #89

rch wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'll be more or less forced to upgrade at some point. Chrome, Slack, and pretty much everything else stopped supporting 10.8 this year. Even CLI apps like Keybase refuse to run.

AS an outsider looking in. What is holding a developer from moving to Linux? I don't understand the draw of OS X for developers especially the past few years. These yearly updates seem to break everyone's workflow for a while.

I've been actively looking for a MBP-quality laptop that shows up on my doorstep running Fedora for about 2 years, but at this point all I'd need is a significant uptick in hardware to justify starting fresh.

I'd also point out how frustrating it is that Linux laptops tend to be on the cheap side (on par with a 13" Air), or generally massive, plastic, and loud.

Re: MacOS Sierra

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Post by fuzzywalrus » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 6:39 PM UTC

Anyone config apache locally by hand? Every year seems to be another game of "What do I have to re-enable for vhosts, php versions, etc".

Re: MacOS Sierra

#103

Post by qwertyuiop924 » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 6:39 PM UTC

k2enemy wrote: post #93

qwertyuiop924 wrote: post #68

So, there's no new features that anybody asked for, save the clipboard thing, which has unfortunate security implications, and there's a ton of nonsense none of us will ever use, as the Mac platform gets increasingly complex ("the computer for the rest of us" is now anything but), moves away from Unix compatability, and doesn't do anything useful with this additional complexity, but does cause emacs to crash. I'd wai…

Yep, I'm already planning my eventual switch to full time linux. In previous releases there has been at least one thing I look forward to, but this one has nothing. Just features that I would rather not have included. I was recalling the other day that I switched from Windows to Mac as my primary operating system because Windows kept popping up notifications for things I didn't need to see. Now OS X is doing the same…

Mac has a larger binary footprint, but Linux has Wine, which helps with that a lot. But I've been linux-only for years.

Re: MacOS Sierra

#104

Post by cmg » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 6:42 PM UTC

fuzzywalrus wrote: post #102

Anyone config apache locally by hand? Every year seems to be another game of "What do I have to re-enable for vhosts, php versions, etc".

I'm using MAMP Pro, which has its own version of Apache so the config files won't get overwritten. https://www.mamp.info/en/mamp-pro/

Re: MacOS Sierra

#105

Post by qwertyuiop924 » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 6:43 PM UTC

baldfat wrote: post #89

rch wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'll be more or less forced to upgrade at some point. Chrome, Slack, and pretty much everything else stopped supporting 10.8 this year. Even CLI apps like Keybase refuse to run.

AS an outsider looking in. What is holding a developer from moving to Linux? I don't understand the draw of OS X for developers especially the past few years. These yearly updates seem to break everyone's workflow for a while.

Well, the linux Systemd nonsense is annoying, but I just run OpenRC, and ignore it for the most part.

Re: MacOS Sierra

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Post by izacus » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 6:43 PM UTC

Hmm, there's surprisingly little in there if you don't have (or want) an iPhone. Is it time for us that don't want to use (and only use) Apple devices to shop elsewhere?

Re: MacOS Sierra

#107

Post by mixmastamyk » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 6:43 PM UTC

tambourine_man wrote: post #96

b3b0p wrote: post #57

It's not a macOS release with out the Ars Technica review: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/09/macos-10-12-sierra-the-... They also have an article to create a bootable USB install drive for clean installs: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/09/how-to-make-your-own-...

I miss Siracusa's review. Not to diminish the current author at all. But it was as old as OS X itself. The style, depth, hidden jokes and all, kind of a tradition. Something I would look forward to almost as much as the upgrade itself

and complaints about the Finder.

Re: MacOS Sierra

#108

Post by rhapsodyv » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 6:44 PM UTC

Anyone having trouble with macports or homebrew?

Re: MacOS Sierra

#109

Post by DiabloD3 » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 6:45 PM UTC

For non-technical users, is there a good tutorial I can point them at to disable iCloud Desktop/Document deleting? This is extremely bad behavior and I have no clue why Apple thought this was a good idea.

Like, this is class action material imho. You can't just take people's files and lock them behind a paywall just because they previously opted into the paywall on a case by case basis.

Edit: For those downvoting, it doesn't change the fact that Apple is turning file deletion on by default. This is not a good idea, especially when most of the world and part of the US still has pretty shitty Internet, or people have Internet caps.

Apple fanboyism helps no one.

Re: MacOS Sierra

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Post by cefstat » Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 6:45 PM UTC

Does anybody know if the upgrade to Sierra also takes an eternity if you have many files in /usr/local? (homebrew, tex, etc.) Previous upgrades moved all files, one by one, out of /usr/local and then back in during the upgrade.