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Re: MacOS Sierra

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Post by mackey »

baldfat wrote: post #89
rch wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'll be more or less forced to upgrade at some point. Chrome, Slack, and pretty much everything else stopped supporting 10.8 this year. Even CLI apps like Keybase refuse to run.

AS an outsider looking in. What is holding a developer from moving to Linux? I don't understand the draw of OS X for developers especially the past few years. These yearly updates seem to break everyone's workflow for a while.

This has gotten better since they started public betas. It seems like people that work on developer tools are more prepared.

Re: MacOS Sierra

#92

Post by gok »

qwertyuiop924 wrote: post #68

So, there's no new features that anybody asked for, save the clipboard thing, which has unfortunate security implications, and there's a ton of nonsense none of us will ever use, as the Mac platform gets increasingly complex ("the computer for the rest of us" is now anything but), moves away from Unix compatability, and doesn't do anything useful with this additional complexity, but does cause emacs to crash. I'd wai…

Moves away from Unix compatibility?

Re: MacOS Sierra

#93

Post by k2enemy »

qwertyuiop924 wrote: post #68

So, there's no new features that anybody asked for, save the clipboard thing, which has unfortunate security implications, and there's a ton of nonsense none of us will ever use, as the Mac platform gets increasingly complex ("the computer for the rest of us" is now anything but), moves away from Unix compatability, and doesn't do anything useful with this additional complexity, but does cause emacs to crash. I'd wai…

Yep, I'm already planning my eventual switch to full time linux. In previous releases there has been at least one thing I look forward to, but this one has nothing. Just features that I would rather not have included.

I was recalling the other day that I switched from Windows to Mac as my primary operating system because Windows kept popping up notifications for things I didn't need to see. Now OS X is doing the same thing with all the automatic update notifications that need user input to dismiss.

Re: MacOS Sierra

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Post by ianferrel »

uonce wrote: post #29
harlanlewis wrote: post #23

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I also find this frustrating. For applications where it happens frequently, you can map paste/paste-and-match to keystrokes you can remember using System Prefs > Keyboard > Shortcuts > App Shortcuts. There isn't a global change you can make without 3rd party tools, AFAIK. For frequently-used shortcuts that have hard-to-remember modifiers, I change them to the full set of shift-ctrl-opt-cmd so that just mashing my han…

Can't you put it under "All Applications" to have it take effect in all apps?

Yes, but it will break Cmd-V as "Paste" on apps that don't have a "Paste and Match Style" option. :(

Re: MacOS Sierra

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Post by AdamN »

soccerdave wrote: post #90
rch wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'll be more or less forced to upgrade at some point. Chrome, Slack, and pretty much everything else stopped supporting 10.8 this year. Even CLI apps like Keybase refuse to run.

I would be more concerned about security updates. Does Apple still publish security updates for those old versions or even for 10.10 since El Capitan has been out for a year?

I'm pretty sure Mountain Lion no longer gets security patches. They're kind of vague about it. Basically, they only really support the previous release of OSX (macOS) and that's it.

Re: MacOS Sierra

#96

Post by tambourine_man »

b3b0p wrote: post #57

It's not a macOS release with out the Ars Technica review: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/09/macos-10-12-sierra-the-... They also have an article to create a bootable USB install drive for clean installs: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/09/how-to-make-your-own-...

I miss Siracusa's review.

Not to diminish the current author at all. But it was as old as OS X itself. The style, depth, hidden jokes and all, kind of a tradition. Something I would look forward to almost as much as the upgrade itself

Re: MacOS Sierra

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Post by zeveb »

qwertyuiop924 wrote: post #68

So, there's no new features that anybody asked for, save the clipboard thing, which has unfortunate security implications, and there's a ton of nonsense none of us will ever use, as the Mac platform gets increasingly complex ("the computer for the rest of us" is now anything but), moves away from Unix compatability, and doesn't do anything useful with this additional complexity, but does cause emacs to crash. I'd wai…

You could always upgrade to Linux. Debian + stumpwm + emacs + Firefox: why use anything else?

Re: MacOS Sierra

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Post by AdamN »

quantumhobbit wrote: post #10
aaronharnly wrote: post #2

> "Copy a quote, image, or video from an app on one device and paste it into an app on another device." Oh my I'm looking forward to this. How many silly workarounds (pastebins, email drafts, iMessages to self, Safari bookmarks) have we used to approximate this?

While they're at it, can we make paste and match style the default? I can never remember the four key chord to do this and as a result send emails that look like ransom notes because of mismatched formatting.

Just cmd+shift+v pastes without formatting ... which is often just whatever is in the target. The explicit 'with formatting' paste is hard to remember though.

Re: MacOS Sierra

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Post by qwertyuiop924 »

zeveb wrote: post #97
qwertyuiop924 wrote: post #68

So, there's no new features that anybody asked for, save the clipboard thing, which has unfortunate security implications, and there's a ton of nonsense none of us will ever use, as the Mac platform gets increasingly complex ("the computer for the rest of us" is now anything but), moves away from Unix compatability, and doesn't do anything useful with this additional complexity, but does cause emacs to crash. I'd wai…

You could always upgrade to Linux. Debian + stumpwm + emacs + Firefox: why use anything else?

Well, Macs have a larger software base: If you want a Unix with app support, and Wine won't cut it, OS X does a neat job. But I'm running Arch myself, so I'm not one to talk.

Re: MacOS Sierra

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Post by srgseg »

OJFord wrote: post #72
srgseg wrote: post #65

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Any recommendations for a simple keyboard remapper that is compatible with Sierra? All I need is to swap the @ with "

Isn't one of Apple's UK mappings sufficient?

Thanks for the tip - unfortunately that mapping changes too many other things on the keyboard at the same time.
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