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Re: Snapshot of North Korea’s DNS data taken from zone transfers

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Post by eternalban »

lisper wrote: post #84
eternalban wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Iran between 1953 and 1979 was a U.S. puppet. Are you repeating n-th hand propaganda? I kind of don't blame you since Google refuses to dig up the story of "Soviet-Iranian Agreement of Cooperation" of 1966. This agreement was reached because the West refused to support Iran's industrialization program under the Shah, so the "puppet" went ahead and reached an agreement with USSR. Intelligence Memorandum, CIA, June 1…

> Are you repeating n-th hand propaganda? Quite possible. The document you cite was news to me. Maybe there has never been an actual U.S. puppet state, I don't know.

> The document you cite was news to me.

"There is a deeply disturbing trend in the world of ever increased deference to power. The free press is ..."

I respectfully suggest to you that this is no "trend".

Re: Snapshot of North Korea’s DNS data taken from zone transfers

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Post by Retr0spectrum »

StavrosK wrote: post #78
navbaker wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My wife and I occasionally wonder if our one year old will think we're crazy when we talk about "taping" a show.

Probably about as crazy as your dad was when he was writing a file to disk, or when you post something on Facebook.

Well, technically it's still a POST request.

Re: Snapshot of North Korea’s DNS data taken from zone transfers

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Post by jason_slack »

itsnotlupus wrote: post #66
jason_slack wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, I need a little more explanation. Are you saying that North Korea would otherwise be keeping these domains out of sight from users that aren't in North Korea? So now that these domains are out there anyone can view them and lurk/spy/gather info?

You'd need to know those domains exist to resolve them. This unusual (mis-) configuration allowed to enumerate those domains exhaustively.

So if I had a friend in North Korea and they told me about one of those domains, I would not have been able to resolve it in my browser?

But now that this has happened anyone can?

Re: Snapshot of North Korea’s DNS data taken from zone transfers

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Post by duskwuff »

userbinator wrote: post #31
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah. Here are some screenshots (google translated): http://imgur.com/a/C2Gp7

> Dafeng strange fruit spreads across the Great Hall won the People's love and young manhood of the world's largest hot in that reverence Kim Jong-un... North Korean is a different dialect so it's no surprise Google struggles with it. It looks like a news/propaganda site.

Not just the dialect that's tough to translate, but also the diction. DPRK propaganda tends to use a lot of bombastic language -- it shows in their English press releases as well.

Re: Snapshot of North Korea’s DNS data taken from zone transfers

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Post by griffinmb »

jason_slack wrote: post #93
itsnotlupus wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'd need to know those domains exist to resolve them. This unusual (mis-) configuration allowed to enumerate those domains exhaustively.

So if I had a friend in North Korea and they told me about one of those domains, I would not have been able to resolve it in my browser? But now that this has happened anyone can?

Rather, if you had a friend in North Korea and they told you about the domains, you WOULD be able to resolve them.

Now that this has happened, you know all of the domain names and no longer need a friend in North Korea to tell you what they are.

Re: Snapshot of North Korea’s DNS data taken from zone transfers

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Post by AlgorithmicTime »

lisper wrote: post #84
eternalban wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Iran between 1953 and 1979 was a U.S. puppet. Are you repeating n-th hand propaganda? I kind of don't blame you since Google refuses to dig up the story of "Soviet-Iranian Agreement of Cooperation" of 1966. This agreement was reached because the West refused to support Iran's industrialization program under the Shah, so the "puppet" went ahead and reached an agreement with USSR. Intelligence Memorandum, CIA, June 1…

> Are you repeating n-th hand propaganda? Quite possible. The document you cite was news to me. Maybe there has never been an actual U.S. puppet state, I don't know.

Eh, Cuba after the Spanish-American War, Panama immediately after their revolution, and of course the Banana Republics of late 19th - early 20th century fame.

Re: Snapshot of North Korea’s DNS data taken from zone transfers

#97

Post by KMag »

mikeash wrote: post #74
lisper wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not quite. The SU started rolling back its support for NK in 1985, four years before the SU fell. In fact, it seems probable to me that NK didn't fall along with the rest of the SU precisely because of this. But the point I was really trying to make is that calling NK anyone's puppet is not really accurate, and arguably never was. They are certainly dependent on China nowadays, but it is far from clear who is pulling…

They definitely don't seem to be now. I'm pretty sure China doesn't want them lighting off nuclear bombs, but doesn't know how to get them to stop. In any case, "puppet" was incidental to my comment, and I'm happy to let that go. My main point was that they were set up very similarly to the Warsaw Pact countries, so the similarity in language is entirely expected.

> but doesn't know how to get them to stop.[1]

[1] That is, without having a humanitarian crisis and state with nuclear explosives (and might have viable nuclear warheads) in civil war on their back doorstep.

I can see both sides to the dispute over how to handle DPRK. If Mexico got very politically unstable and started making nuclear explosions and likely had a missle-portable warhead, the U.S. would get touchy if China started proposing actions that could easily touch off a Mexican civil war. In hindsight, I hope they realize that they should have pushed the DPRK harder earlier and run a higher risk of a civil war in the pre-nuclear-explosive DPRK in exchange for heading off warhead development.

Re: Snapshot of North Korea’s DNS data taken from zone transfers

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Post by richman777 »

misterbwong wrote: post #79

Side note: I'd really like to visit this NK ski resort. It'd be amazing to snowboard on what looks like completely empty snow. http://masikryong.com.kp/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masikryong_Ski_Resort

Just don't use the ski lift....(if you didn't read the article it's a 30 year old retired lift)

Re: Snapshot of North Korea’s DNS data taken from zone transfers

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Post by mikeash »

KMag wrote: post #97
mikeash wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They definitely don't seem to be now. I'm pretty sure China doesn't want them lighting off nuclear bombs, but doesn't know how to get them to stop. In any case, "puppet" was incidental to my comment, and I'm happy to let that go. My main point was that they were set up very similarly to the Warsaw Pact countries, so the similarity in language is entirely expected.

> but doesn't know how to get them to stop.[1] [1] That is, without having a humanitarian crisis and state with nuclear explosives (and might have viable nuclear warheads) in civil war on their back doorstep. I can see both sides to the dispute over how to handle DPRK. If Mexico got very politically unstable and started making nuclear explosions and likely had a missle-portable warhead, the U.S. would get touchy if C…

Agreed, it's a huge mess and I see no good way to clean it up. We should probably just rip the band-aid off ASAP and get it over with. I think the non-nuclear window of opportunity is still open there. They have weapons, but I don't think they yet have the means to deliver them. In any case, I doubt anyone is willing to do that, and I can't blame them at all. The other hope would be that somehow either the regime becomes less crazy on their own (like China did) or a successful revolution happens without spilling outside the country too much. Neither possibility seems likely.

On the other hand, I remember how the Soviet Union seemed like it was here forever, right up until it wasn't. That didn't turn out great, but it stayed contained and nobody got nuked.

Re: Snapshot of North Korea’s DNS data taken from zone transfers

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Post by StavrosK »

Retr0spectrum wrote: post #92
StavrosK wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably about as crazy as your dad was when he was writing a file to disk, or when you post something on Facebook.

Well, technically it's still a POST request.

Which is exactly as retro!
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