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Re: Snapshot of North Korea’s DNS data taken from zone transfers

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Sure, but while not quite the same level, my voicemail icon is a reel-to-reel tape and lots of "save" icons are floppy disks.

My wife and I occasionally wonder if our one year old will think we're crazy when we talk about "taping" a show.

No, probably (s)he'll complete accept it and not even give a thought to its etymology. It's just the word that names that action.

Re: Snapshot of North Korea’s DNS data taken from zone transfers

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And we're not helping 25 million prisoners escape from this starvation cult run by a megalomaniac child because? 1) China would get mad 2) No one would want the refugees 3) There's no will to help people you largely can't see 4) After deposing the Kim regime no one knows how to nation build while avoiding the usual quagmires. 5) Would cost too much money Am I missing anything or does that about cover it?

6) We respect the sovereignty of nations and don't randomly invade countries that are no threat to us Also, 4 is a really big point. Unless you annex NK and make it a colony, almost all precedent tells us that your plan would end in decades of civil war and a lot of suffering (or an equally brutal "democratic" regime).

Germany, 1946?

Re: Snapshot of North Korea’s DNS data taken from zone transfers

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NK is not a Russian puppet, it's a Chinese puppet. (And it's a puppet gone rogue like Chucky.)

They are now, but they were aligned with the Soviets until there stopped being Soviets. Naturally they sought out a new patron after that.

Not quite. The SU started rolling back its support for NK in 1985, four years before the SU fell. In fact, it seems probable to me that NK didn't fall along with the rest of the SU precisely because of this.

But the point I was really trying to make is that calling NK anyone's puppet is not really accurate, and arguably never was. They are certainly dependent on China nowadays, but it is far from clear who is pulling whose strings.

Re: Snapshot of North Korea’s DNS data taken from zone transfers

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They are now, but they were aligned with the Soviets until there stopped being Soviets. Naturally they sought out a new patron after that.

Not quite. The SU started rolling back its support for NK in 1985, four years before the SU fell. In fact, it seems probable to me that NK didn't fall along with the rest of the SU precisely because of this. But the point I was really trying to make is that calling NK anyone's puppet is not really accurate, and arguably never was. They are certainly dependent on China nowadays, but it is far from clear who is pulling…

They definitely don't seem to be now. I'm pretty sure China doesn't want them lighting off nuclear bombs, but doesn't know how to get them to stop.

In any case, "puppet" was incidental to my comment, and I'm happy to let that go. My main point was that they were set up very similarly to the Warsaw Pact countries, so the similarity in language is entirely expected.

Re: Snapshot of North Korea’s DNS data taken from zone transfers

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Well, I hope for the head of the NK chief propaganda minister that the grand divine dictator's internet does not break down with all the traffic from Hacker News.. "Kim Jong Un, Chairman of the Workers' Party of Korea, Chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the DPRK and Supreme Commander of the Korean People's Army, visited the Sohae Space Centre to inspect the ground jet test of a new type high-power engine of…

I'm actually am having trouble accessing any of these NK sites at the moment. Verified that several sites are down at isitdownrightnow as well. Could be many things, of course. But if Hacker News traffic is enough to overload an entire country's Internet...

It's hitting the Reddit frontpage as well, so yeah.

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It should remind you of that, since that's basically what they are. They're on the wrong side of Russia to be in the Warsaw Pact, but they follow the same basic model as other Soviet puppets, except for the part where they succumbed to revolution in the 90s.

NK is not a Russian puppet, it's a Chinese puppet. (And it's a puppet gone rogue like Chucky.)

Just asking to nail down definition of "puppet": is SK a US puppet?

Re: Snapshot of North Korea’s DNS data taken from zone transfers

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Fascinating, that's the complete zone for the whole country? And it's run on 5 servers? (only 5 different IPs mentioned as far as I can tell)

This is a bit misleading. According to Will Scott, who taught CS in North Korea, there are some 3000-5000 sites on the national intranet, but it is entirely disconnected from the internet at large. So these zones are ones that are intended for consumption by foreigners.

Source: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/how-to-teach-computer-scien... (super interesting, suggest reading it)

Re: Snapshot of North Korea’s DNS data taken from zone transfers

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Sure, but while not quite the same level, my voicemail icon is a reel-to-reel tape and lots of "save" icons are floppy disks.

My wife and I occasionally wonder if our one year old will think we're crazy when we talk about "taping" a show.

Probably about as crazy as your dad was when he was writing a file to disk, or when you post something on Facebook.

Re: Snapshot of North Korea’s DNS data taken from zone transfers

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NK is not a Russian puppet, it's a Chinese puppet. (And it's a puppet gone rogue like Chucky.)

Just asking to nail down definition of "puppet": is SK a US puppet?

A puppet state is one that is set up to look like an independent state but is in fact entirely de facto controlled by (i.e. cannot do anything without the approval of) another state. Iran between 1953 and 1979 was a U.S. puppet. Syria seems to be on the road to becoming a Russian puppet. SK is not a US puppet, and NK is not really a Chinese puppet either (that's what I meant by the "Chucky" comment).

It has generally become unfashionable to have puppet states nowadays. They're too hard to maintain.

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